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Stephen Colbert, Objectivist?

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Googly Minotaur

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:50 am


PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:09 am



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KahlantheMotherConfessor

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:45 pm


Mmm, I remember watching that Episode.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:48 pm


Skip_dAnconia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jYXbseapIY

Have you ever read anything by Iris Murdoch?

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Aeggnis

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:29 am


No. But I heard she too had some bullshit biography written about her just like Ayn Rand.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:28 am


Well I was reading her work "The Sovereignty of Good" for my moral psychology class at the time of being invited to this guild and I was surprised about how ironic it was to read her while re-evaluating objectivism since they contrast so drastically, especially on the issue of self-interest.

Weird, too, how Murdoch was also into writing philosophical-influenced fiction novels.

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bluecherry

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:16 pm



The sound has recently decided it refuses to cooperate on my computer, so I can't really hear either of the videos, but just the title of this thread when I saw it made me think to myself something which amounted to "WTF?" If anybody wouldn't mind, could you post roughly what is going on in the two?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:11 pm


bluecherry

The sound has recently decided it refuses to cooperate on my computer, so I can't really hear either of the videos, but just the title of this thread when I saw it made me think to myself something which amounted to "WTF?" If anybody wouldn't mind, could you post roughly what is going on in the two?
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Stephen Colbert is saying things like "What did I tell you about sharing a cookie? It rewards the weak!" and a lullaby: "go to sleep... go to sleep... it's in your ratiooonal self-interest....

And the pretend son of him in the other video is going on a tirade about how it's in his self interest to push the button on the vending machine rather than leaving the change for the next guy (duh) and "It's like a free candy bar for egoism" (kinda patent nonsense biggrin )

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bluecherry

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:48 pm



Ah, ok. This specification is appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:46 am


You are aware that Stephen Colbert as he appears on television is a character, right?

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Googly Minotaur

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:53 am


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You are aware that Stephen Colbert as he appears on television is a character, right?

Yes, this thread is about the character.

The real Stephen Colbert is a democrat and a practicing Roman Catholic. This obviously means he's delusional and self-hating, right guys?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:52 pm



Actually, I'd think him doing a character like the one he plays on TV in consideration of how he is as a real person and that he's on an obviously comedic show doing an extreme parody version of a Republican just means he is using humor to attempt to continue to further his own actual argument via a method similar to reductio ad absurdum. So if you mean him playing a character which is not how he is in real life, this doesn't directly make that statement so at all. If you just mean about actually being a Democrat and a practicing Roman Catholic than that's another story and one that has been talked about in great lengths so I need not get into here. If anybody does want to hear bout it a link about such stuff already explained in detail can probably be dug up.
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Googly Minotaur

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:45 am


Such a long-winded way of sayinig "satire." Yes, the real Stephen Colbert is a humorist. The character he plays on his show is a device of satire. The Stephen Colbert outside of his show and character is, in fact, a Democrat and a Roman Catholic.

My comment of being "delusional and self-hating" was a sarcastic comment about being a Democrat and Catholic. Not engaging in satire.

Do you Ayn Rand fans enjoy Voltaire?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:41 am


I loved reading Voltaire's Candide....

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bluecherry

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:58 pm



Actually, I've currently got a project for one class on Voltaire's Candide.
EDIT: Hey wait! OoO I just checked the member list and it looks like you've (*points to above post*) been promoted. Perhaps now you've got the authority to wander around all by your lonesome in the empty uncharted forest. lol
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