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 Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:51 am
At the risk of adding yet another spiritual topic (I promise, next one will be something different) I decided to make one on numbers.
Specifically, numbers and their meanings.
It's been a bit of a hobby of mine to look at numbers and where they appear. Like the number 3, which appears in several religions (Christianity being the dominant one and a whole slew of Pagan ones too)
And by numerologists, the number 2 is considered the Holy Duality - and boils down by dualistic beliefs nicely. Everything comes in pairs - inside and outside, left and right, good and evil, hot and cold... 2 is the number which defines existence - everything being defined by what it isn't.
Together, two to the power of two and three make the number 7 - seven chakra, seven days of the week, seven sins and virtues
^^; This is just something that fascinates me. I dun really know why, to tell you the truth.
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:44 pm
Well, I've had mom talk to me a little about numerology....though admittedly, I really don't know all that much about it other than I think that she mentioned that my birthday was a good number when it worked out...*shurgs*
Anyway, could you maybe fill me in a little on the subject? (if you follow much numerology, anyway.)
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Tsume Rokaro Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:25 pm
Well, I don't know a lot about numerology, unfortunately. I was kinda hoping someone else here would know more.
From what I do know, though, numerology is the study of the mystical ties that various numbers have - like the aforementioned 2 and 3.
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:12 am
Ah well. I'll ask mom about it the next times she's off and get some information for the both of us.
If I remember right thought....I think it was 11 that also had some significant meaning within numerology itself, though if that's valid or not and, if is valid, what that meaning is has slipped my memory rather completely.
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Tsume Rokaro Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:33 pm
Hm... I'd like to do some studying also, if I find anything I'll post it.
The only true numerology I heard about was the 'satan's number'; 666. The number six was considered unholy to the jewish people, because it could be divided, and when it was divided it made two 3s, and since three was the holy number of God, this was considered somewhat blasphemous at the suggestion of two Gods. (something along those lines) And since six was the imperfect number and three the perfect number the three sixes (666) was the symbol of perfect imperfection, pure evil, that is, satan.
I found that whole thing facinating though. =D So yeah, I'd like to learn more also.
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:10 am
Well Ro, that was something that I wasn't positive on the exact origins. That's interesting though. And makes a little sense. o.o Hm....*knew a little about what Nick was talking about, but that was new--hurrah new info. :3*
[edit] Okay, so this is how it's gonna go down. I can't really learn anything from mom until, like Christmas day. She has said that she doesn't have the book I'm thinking of anymore. I'll be slow to put up things that I'm learning because of mom's work and sleep schedule. (I love night shift anyways.) So it will most definitely be after Christmas before I can post anything or real value....
I do not trust sites to figure this out when there's someone that can actually teach me something about it...Sites are biased far too often....[/edit]
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Tsume Rokaro Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:37 pm
I had a dream god gave me on new years eve.
only I dont really know if he did,
I saw the anit christ rise from the seas and everybody swam out to him, only it could have been the sign of the beast.
there were numbers included in this dream. I remember it was something that does with the time we have left on earth. it was like a count down though. the last number I remember before awaking, was 422.
4 meant end times.
2 meant judgement.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:38 pm
Rabbi Rag Doll I had a dream god gave me on new years eve. only I dont really know if he did, I saw the anit christ rise from the seas and everybody swam out to him, only it could have been the sign of the beast. there were numbers included in this dream. I remember it was something that does with the time we have left on earth. it was like a count down though. the last number I remember before awaking, was 422. 4 meant end times. 2 meant judgement. That's interesting. I remember having a dream with a specific number that kept recurring throughout; 715. It had something to do with a hidden place and 'protecting the children of the dark', but that's all I remember. I wonder if there's a significance behind the number?
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:56 pm
-xXrowan_of_wonderlessXx- Rabbi Rag Doll I had a dream god gave me on new years eve. only I dont really know if he did, I saw the anit christ rise from the seas and everybody swam out to him, only it could have been the sign of the beast. there were numbers included in this dream. I remember it was something that does with the time we have left on earth. it was like a count down though. the last number I remember before awaking, was 422. 4 meant end times. 2 meant judgement. That's interesting. I remember having a dream with a specific number that kept recurring throughout; 715. It had something to do with a hidden place and 'protecting the children of the dark', but that's all I remember. I wonder if there's a significance behind the number? i think every number has a certain reason behind it, now that we compared dreams. strange
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:32 pm
Rabbi Rag Doll I had a dream god gave me on new years eve. only I dont really know if he did, I saw the anit christ rise from the seas and everybody swam out to him, only it could have been the sign of the beast. there were numbers included in this dream. I remember it was something that does with the time we have left on earth. it was like a count down though. the last number I remember before awaking, was 422. 4 meant end times. 2 meant judgement. That's really interesting. I was always told by my mom that 2 was a very significant number, though, thete was never actually a reason behind it. *feels the desire to go looking through for somethings now* [edit] By the way Nick, tell us if that book we sent was any good when you get around to it, please?
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Tsume Rokaro Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:19 pm
I don't know that 2 is judgement; it's always read as the duality to me. The holy pair, the two balancing and defining elements.
Myar. I'll take a look at the book when I get a chance
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:21 pm
Niccolo Salomanos I don't know that 2 is judgement; it's always read as the duality to me. The holy pair, the two balancing and defining elements. Myar. I'll take a look at the book when I get a chance no it means judgement. there are different opinions to most people, actually, but it says somewhere in a scripture or something, my dad's gf looked it up, and she told me it meant judgement. thats why it is so read as the holy pair here. 422 <--- D:
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:48 pm
Hunh. *Consults his shiny new book on numerology* Taken verbatim: "Whereas 1 signifies unity, 2 stands for duality, recognising that whatever we are capable of imagining has an opposite." As a result, 2 is the mediator constantly trying to balance the forces of 1+1." Here's where it could have been confused with the number of judgement, continuing on directly from the last quote: "It also makes it the peacemaker." In the fate section, it once again states that 2 is a number of support, of protectiveness, of partnership. I'm not sure where you're getting your definitions of the numerological meaning of numbers from... can you please tell me? I'd like to read it all for myself. It seems vastly different to what I've encountered in the past.
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:38 pm
no no, it speaks that god will give 2 judgements. in revelations.
you can look for yourself, its just the prediction cause it says somewhere about 2 judgements. that is why i believe it means judgement.
and im not gonna change my opinion on that.
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:13 am
Hm.
There are several different "Houses" of beliefs on Numerology. The bible and many religious scriptures have certain numbers that are repeated or mentioned, at least. The number 40 is an excellent number, as it is interpreted by most scholars to mean 'cleansing or renewal'. Of course, the number that it really represents, is 4. That's adding 4+0. See the number definitions below.
In names, the key thing is to find a specific house in which to derive your meanings. There are more common meanings though, and this is copy+pasted from a wikipedia article(found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerology):
Number definitions
There are no set definitions for the meaning of specific digits. Common examples include: [3]
0. Everything or absoluteness. All
1. Individual. Aggressor. Yang.
2. Balance. Union. Receptive. Yin.
3. Communication/interaction. Neutrality.
4. Creation.
5. Action. Restlessness.
6. Reaction/flux. Responsibility.
7. Thought/consciousness.
8. Power/sacrifice.
9. Highest level of change.
10. Rebirth.
Now, here is what I derived from my name (Erika Victoria May). If you give a number to every letter in the alphabet, A-Z, in succession, 1-9, over and over, you end with the number 8. If you just count the numbers, as in 1-26, then add the double digits, you still end with the same.
My name, before adding up, has a lot of 1's, and even more 9's. Added, each name by its self and in order, is 8 7 3. My middle name is the only one, though, that has a different number when added in a different way(I did 2 methods). The other number was 6. Now, if i take the first 3 numbers (873) and add it, I get 18, then added to make 9. Of course, subtract 1 to get the other ultimate meaning of 8.
The other thing about ideas such as Numerology is that you really have to take your own meaning. That's the beauty of it, really. There can be different meanings to the same number.
I haven't exactly formed the conclusion on what my name means, but its pretty interesting if you ask me.
In relation to the numbers that Rabbit Mauve mentioned, 422, you can take the meanings from above and do a few things. You can take the numbers individually to make a collective meaning. The other way is to add them, 4+2+2=8(Power/Sacrifice).
Also, it could be a sign, rather than a numerology meaning. I know of people who had dreams of destruction, seeing numbers 9 and 11, and airplanes who's numbers match that of the flights that were hijacked. Some had dreams a year or so before it happened.
Food for thought. Mmmm, yummy. :3
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