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Firregani
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:52 am


pirula



Next update: Shop outsides ..... coming NOW!


The idea for this feature initially came out of some of your feedback:
- the icon navigation within the shop page is too small and easily missed
- the shops feel too much like a web page and not enough like a shop

We hit the drawing board to come up with a great way to show the shop in the world, and also make a really easy and clear navigation between the different shops.

The result is we are updating the Shop landing page (this page) to show the 'street view' of the shop and have a big directory of all the shops.

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Notes & responses:

- this is not a flash page, it is all images. you will not be able to move around or chat in front of the stores, but on the flip side, everyone should be able to load the page and use it!
- the people will be random people who have recently shopped at that store (not showing what you bought, or even your name, to protect privacy)
- Payment history & Order history are now in your Account Settings under MyGaia
- The only thing we changed about Marketplace is to standardize the CSS with the rest of the site (this means something to technical folks). Some colors and fonts changed, and the buttons changed to tabs. This was less work than trying to make it look like its old self on the new page.
- New users only see avatar clothing shops. They do not see the car shop until they have a car, not see the house shop until they have a house, etc. This is to help them understand that the main reason you shop is to dress up your avatar; everything else is bonus features. Its not about creating exclusivity, just not overwhelming people until they have a chance to explore the site a bit. more details here

feedback on this feature starts here

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previous updates:

- Background colors + NPC art & dialogue *user-suggested working on others (Barton Jewelers & Skin tyte will be next). probably wont be as extensively changed as any of the initial shops.
- organizing shop items *user-suggested
- link to sell on the market from your inventory *user-suggested
- transparent png images (so the NPCs will look less pixeley) *user-suggested
- show tickets instead of gold when you are in Prize & Joy thanks for pointing out this bug!
- be able to sell back famestar 'you lost' item thanks for pointing out this bug!
- trash button to get rid of the stuff you can't sell back! *user-suggested



Top User Sugggestions We will try to do 1-2 of these things in each release. no guarantees that we will be able to do all of them, even though they are good ideas.
- for shop feel: have shelves, NPC's have expressions/moods, Show your avatar in the shop (in the header instead of having a town background), show NPC avatar, have more decorations and border on the page that reflect the shop personality
- have larger shop icons for navigation, larger nav bar
- for preview: unequip other items, preview skin, preview different poses, reverse view, kneel, try on more than one item at a time, different backgrounds for different shops
- put cash shop in the same template as other shops (probably can't do this until we have previews for multi-pose items in the current shops)
- sell back/trash more than one item at a time
- shopping cart (buy more than one item at a time)
- sort by color
- search
- sell male & female items (do not limit to avatar gender - include strong warnings though)
- some kind of inventory security feature to protect from hacking (export item list?)
- update tabs: teal in Salon
- have the sort option stay once you choose it (if you choose 'show newest' then it will always show newest until you change it)


These are the recent changes Gaia made and "maybe" plan to make. For most users, this is a hassle because the drop downs no longer provide all the options they had before they made this update. Making navigation around the site even slower.
For me, I've already noticed things not working correctly. The "Shop Directory" isn't outside the shops. You have to go in to see a list of the stores.
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The trades shortcut in the drop downs is gone and can only be accessed through the shops/marketplace pages in the top right corner. Which means you have to take a detour and it will be confusing for new users. The list of shops under the drop down is gone, meaning you have to go to two extra pages, just to get to the shop you want. (until they fix the directory, then it will only be one).

Post here and discuss about these changes and how they are affecting you. Also please post anything else I've missed with this change.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:11 pm



I keep looking for the damn trade button and forgetting they stuck it in a stupid spot.

Not to mention the MP is a pain to navigate now. Need to scroll down, fight the drop down. Then on some need to click the back button just to get any damn place to see anything.

ToushinYusuke
Captain

Powered-up Fighter



KADlNA

Crew
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:32 am


Firregani
pirula


- for preview: unequip other items, preview skin, preview different poses, reverse view, kneel, try on more than one item at a time, different backgrounds for different shops
- sell back/trash more than one item at a time
- shopping cart (buy more than one item at a time)
- sort by color
- search
- sell male & female items (do not limit to avatar gender - include strong warnings though)
- some kind of inventory security feature to protect from hacking (export item list?)
- have the sort option stay once you choose it (if you choose 'show newest' then it will always show newest until you change it)


These are the recent changes Gaia made and "maybe" plan to make.

Post here and discuss about these changes and how they are affecting you. Also please post anything else I've missed with this change.



These are things that Gaians have been asking for....for longer than I've been a Gaian. My personal favorite is highlighted. They need to concentrate more on member safety, and I am referring to that announcement that some of us saw (and saved!) on Friday, June 19th.

It was from someone named "Lain", and I gather he's been annoying Gaia insiders for awhile. Anyway, it appears Lain was using a hacked staff account to post with....."RamoneGuru/ Developer" was the name and title on the announcement. I have it saved for those of you who weren't online before it got yanked that morning.

That's some pretty lame internal security. Reminds me of my pre-AOL days when we were all on Commodores and working for Q-Link.

Then that brings us to the matter of the FREE CASH offers that they set us all up for....but thats a whole 'nother post! Time for someone else to stand on the soapbox.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:32 am


I was wondering why there was another announcement that didn't come up that day. I looked for it, but only found announcements I had previously seen.

I would ask you to post the announcement, but I'm not for sure whether Gaia would consider it against the ToS, or not.

and Gaia really does need to focus on the safety of it's members. I never clicked on a password phisshing thing, or gave out my password whenever I was hacked. They hacked through my e-mail adress. God knows how they did that. If we were able to export our inventories, it would make it easier for Gaia to be able to tell if they got everything back for the members that are hacked. There's also a catch in your profile settings though. IF you don't have both the warnings turned on, you won't get help if you are ever hacked. They also turn themselves off, so you have to check them on a regular basis.

Firregani
Crew



KADlNA

Crew
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:11 pm



Hacked through email....... was it Gmail?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:37 pm


No. It was Yahoo actually. I usually use passwords like this too:

###Lllll!Dddd!@#

Not exactly like that. I use a bunch of numbers, and generally two random words. Whether they're in English, or in some other language. Then I use random symbols. I've been doing my passwords like that for a LONG time.

Firregani
Crew



KADlNA

Crew
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:18 am



Just curious because for the past few weeks now, with this account and a mule, I've been getting an Account Notice regarding my Gmail. They can't seem to send any mail to me. I've checked both accounts, and everything is fine. At first, I removed the blocks and contacted them. Never got a reply back, so now I just remove the blocks and keep checking both mail accounts. =/
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:20 am


Did you notice they took all of the shops off the drop down menue other then the cash shop,AND they put it with shops list too.
I like the old shops,they were so more easier to navigate,and if I wanted an item I remebered where it was. Then they changed the shops after the "SOS"thing and I can't find a goddamn thing.

I haven't heard about this "hacked through email" thing though,I'd like to hear more.

MyDino


Jasmine--Rayne
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:22 am


i am so sick of all these stupid changes.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:51 am



Let's take a look at the "Home" page.

We have "What's Hot" with 3 little buttons to clicky-clicky, and they all involve you spending your cash. Currently it's the EI's, the zOMG soundtrack (for 3.99), and the promo to win an Angelic Halo, by spending cash in the cash shop first.

Then we have the "Featured Aquarium", which makes us all want to run out to buy little pixel fish and decorations from Phin Phang.

And, "Popular Items"? OMG, it's all cash shop related!

Golly gee...what a relief to see they still can afford to keep their softball team.

stare


KADlNA

Crew

`MaliceMizer

Wheezing Codger

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:47 am


I miss the actual SHOPS. Like, with the shelves and the little orange arrows.

Not this... confusing crap.
I, sadly, had the location of all items memorized.
Gambino Outfitters had Winter Gear, Crate and Apparel had the Asian-esque stuff, Barton Boutique had cheap newbish gear, Edmond's shop had overpriced formalwear along with the messenger bags, and Durem Depot had lots of the darker-colored wear like Lex's sets and the strappy sets as well as G-lol and the era gear (70s, 80s).
Now I don't know where to find anything, if not for the marketplace that provides direct links to everything.

Also, not needing to buy a shop and trade pass is bullshit.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:53 am


Kadina Knightly

Let's take a look at the "Home" page.

We have "What's Hot" with 3 little buttons to clicky-clicky, and they all involve you spending your cash. Currently it's the EI's, the zOMG soundtrack (for 3.99), and the promo to win an Angelic Halo, by spending cash in the cash shop first.

Then we have the "Featured Aquarium", which makes us all want to run out to buy little pixel fish and decorations from Phin Phang.

And, "Popular Items"? OMG, it's all cash shop related!

Golly gee...what a relief to see they still can afford to keep their softball team.

stare

Apparently they're not getting enough money from the ads or occasional money from supportive members? rolleyes

Kangit

High-functioning Shapeshifter


Dumbshiit Dc-ed

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:20 pm


I don't like the new shops AT ALL. Seriously, and the names too;
"The Jock Strap."
"Ruby's Rack."
Get what I'm saying.
Also, I DESPISE how some of the NPC's look now. Sasha and Natasha look horrible. I liked how they used to look way better.User Image
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:34 am


Firregani
I was wondering why there was another announcement that didn't come up that day. I looked for it, but only found announcements I had previously seen.

I would ask you to post the announcement, but I'm not for sure whether Gaia would consider it against the ToS, or not.

and Gaia really does need to focus on the safety of it's members. I never clicked on a password phisshing thing, or gave out my password whenever I was hacked. They hacked through my e-mail adress. God knows how they did that. If we were able to export our inventories, it would make it easier for Gaia to be able to tell if they got everything back for the members that are hacked. There's also a catch in your profile settings though. IF you don't have both the warnings turned on, you won't get help if you are ever hacked. They also turn themselves off, so you have to check them on a regular basis.


Hi. I am sorry this happened to you. I think recently something like this happened to me. Perhaps through my email?

Anyways (I am sure you know all of this) gaia says a person has 30 days to file a hacking report. How to find this report?

Its not easy to find at ALL if you don't know. under community under forums at the bottom of page is spamming hacking report. That is how I got control of my account back. I am a gaiaholic so I noticed it right away.

I DO agree everything is getting TOO cash shop orientated this is supposed to be FREE site? I have MANY international friends who complain that they are unable to get gaia cash cards.

However honorable gaians EARN their gold, not just buy gaia cash. Perhaps I am wrong in that. I do sometimes get a small 10 dollar card however I slave on the marketplace making stuff from zOMG to make ends meet. I work hard at it too.

OH YEAH I have SEEN this hacker I reported in virtual hollywood. He goes by the handle adminn_lead (or staff I forget). or something like that. You cannot see their avi or their profile. However you get the con spam pm from them saying to give account password etc. DON'T be fooled. Especially since the handle misspelled has two n's!!!!!



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