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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:23 am
zOMG has taken ages to develop right? Very complicated indeed. I heard people where waiting years for it. Well firstly let me point out that if I remember correcly gaia was hoping it would bring lots of new members to the site though people where complaing, amoung other things, about the marketplace inflation (that would inevitably come as result of all this) because of the influx of new members zOMG would bring. After all, higher prices means more people will be driven to but gaia cash to 'get rich quick'. In fact, gaia even advises its members to but gaia cash and collectables (Link here: http://www.gaiaonline.com/info/gold ) and it has as a requirment that you have to buy some in order to complete the checklist of the my gaia page. Secondly, all the new members would mean gaia would need bigger/more servers along with the new dedicated zOMG ones. As a result gaia's running costs would go up because of the increased maintanace cost due to the new bigger servers and, of course, because more staff would be required to help with the development of zOMG and the running of an increased amount of (bigger) severs. So let me make the conntection. Gaia needs more of our money to help run zOMG; which for many of us the novelty of it has all but worn off. Seriosuly I'd rather see more adverts than have to start dishing out more and more of my hard earned real money to help maintain an ever hungry gaia. I also think the soulbounding of zOMG rings is all a big conspriasy. Yes it means we can't speed though zOMG anymore BUT it means they've been forced to make all the mosnters easier to kill (which actualy makes the game more boring that it would have otherwise have been) and it goes against what zOMG was all about which gaia said is helping others kill the animated by working together (exchanging rings=working together). Now what you get is users' bags full of rings which they have little or no use for. At least they could maybe allow user to trade rings but only for other rings or have the ability to be able to sell rings that have never met with a charge orb. Also the fact that rings cannot be brought also means more people will be tempted to buy more cash shop items to help them through zOMG. But I find that rather iloogical because the zOMG cash shop items (when used correctly and if one has enough) can help a player speed theough the game anyway. For example, one can just revive without having to go back the null chamber and one can use the double orb drop to make more charge orbs appear from monster kills and they have one for Ghi energy too which increases damage dealt fo monsters. So actualy, it's not really helping anyone - not even gaia because the increase in demand for zOMG items will soon fade I beleive owing to the fact that more and more pepole will be bored from havingg complited the game. I honeslty beleive that zOMG has come with unintened coutereffects, if you get what I mean.
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:23 am
Sorry if I'm being too honest now, but I stopped reading halfway, since your punctuation is horrible, or rather; not there at all...
Anyway, I'd not want more ads on Gaia, there's enough as it is... Also, you don't HAVE to pay Gaia ANYTHING. I'd understand your complaint on that one, if we were to pay for our actions. zOMG! sucks, and it's not as popular as expected, they're probably trying to swallow that still.
IMHO, Cash is not a problem, since Gais DOES need more money for the many features they are updating. But no one is forcing you to use these features, nor to pay for using them, it's just something extra for all who want something extra from the site, and have the money and will to pay.
I use Cash. I bought almost all first generation EI's. I buy 2 collectibles every month. I sometimes buy a RIG item, if I feel like it. I'm not fond of Cash taking over the Aquarium, and I'm also not fond of it taking over Cars. But it's Gaias way of making money for the site, and guess what? It works! I'm not buying car parts for Cash though, because I don't feel I need them, it's a feature I chose not to use. I do like playing Booty Grab, but look at my tank; I bought those fish on the marketplace, or won them in a small RIG. I feed off of others who spend their real money on Cash to buy fish *shrug*
I don't think the Cash is related to zOMG!, or else there would be WAY more zOMG! related Cash items.
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:31 pm
Ranchi I use Cash. I bought almost all first generation EI's. I buy 2 collectibles every month. I sometimes buy a RIG item, if I feel like it. I'm not fond of Cash taking over the Aquarium, and I'm also not fond of it taking over Cars. But it's Gaias way of making money for the site, and guess what? It works! I'm not buying car parts for Cash though, because I don't feel I need them, it's a feature I chose not to use. I do like playing Booty Grab, but look at my tank; I bought those fish on the marketplace, or won them in a small RIG. I feed off of others who spend their real money on Cash to buy fish *shrug* I don't think the Cash is related to zOMG!, or else there would be WAY more zOMG! related Cash items. Well the point I'm trying to make is though, is that zOMG must have cost a lot to develop since they've been at it years. To me it seems gaia is trying to recoup some of the costs (owing that as you rightly said it was not as ppular as expected) by fixing what isn't broken - in the case of rally and by having quantity over quality in the case of the cash shop in genral. Take the evolving item Lyndexters Journal for example. 10th Gen and only 4 options. Perhaps their desperation hasn't shined through to you yet? Take a look at this: http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/petitions/boycotting-aquariums-items-closed/t.43794553/ Gaians rallying against the aquariums. And I quote form user Musentango: Musentango I'll spend a few dollars on an evolving item, but that's about it. My hard-earned money (actual money) will mostly go to food, bills, and my female necessities. I'm also trying to save up for a car. I work part-time in a cosmetics store, because that's all that is available for me for the time being. The fact that some of these Aquarium items expire in just a few short weeks further proves he only wants our money. Lanzer: Stop being greedy, and go back to being the selfless Gaia employees we adored in the Go-Gaia days. You don't need to jew us out of our hard-earned money (for those of us who have jobs) just to keep our attention. I've been here since September 2003, and haven't left yet - despite how much shittier you've been making GaiaOnline out to be So really, (in terms of zOMG) my problem is that gaia hasn't been able to admit failiure yet and they think that adding new content will solve the problem. Their're trying to sustain something that isn't worth sustaining and that's probably why we get guilds like this saying they want the old gaia back. Isn't it true that they expect us to throw money at a situation that they created?
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:03 pm
Lyndexer is a bad example, since I already explained to you in another topic, why the 10th generation has 4 poses... Don't complain about a thing that's completely normal, and then try to use it as an example on how Gaia tries to get our money.
Aaand I already stated, that I'm not fond of everything they do, which made me join this guild in the first place. Yet I see no reason to complain about things that can be ignored. I ignore Rally completely, it's like air to me, so why would I bother complaining about it? Other than it makes me sigh that they want Cash for the new Rally items, it doesn't even exist in my head. I stopped playing zOMG! when it became even more rubbish than it was after launch, and other than the rings, recipes and materials I'm getting rid of at the moment, I also have nothing to do with that part of Gaia anymore. It has nothing to do with anything stupid not shining through to me, but rather that I learned to ignore, what doesn't need to bother me.
Yes, they do try to get money in some unfine ways, but they can ALL be ignored, if you are not willing to give them any. The thing that REALLY bothers me, although I don't use it; Cash Offers. It's a third party site sending you a virus, that will most likely either destroy your computer, or steal your private infos, and you still won't get your promised Cash. Gaia needs to remove those offers, but hey, they are sponsors, right? Things that actually destroy, or are a thread in other ways bother me, and not whatever feature Gaia might send es next, which we can ignore anyway, if we don't like it.
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:14 pm
I have not read the other topic yet. I will go and read it now. Ranchi Yes, they do try to get money in some unfine ways, but they can ALL be ignored, if you are not willing to give them any. The thing that REALLY bothers me, although I don't use it; Cash Offers. It's a third party site sending you a virus, that will most likely either destroy your computer, or steal your private infos, and you still won't get your promised Cash. Gaia needs to remove those offers, but hey, they are sponsors, right? Things that actually destroy, or are a thread in other ways bother me, and not whatever feature Gaia might send es next, which we can ignore anyway, if we don't like it. That's very true. I did a similar thing with a mysapce application and I never got what they said I would get and I started reviecing a lot of junk mail which has never happened to me before. The ones that do actualy give the gaia cash I suspect are few and far between and will namley be the ones that require a purchase. Then again some people will do anything for a bit of gaia cash. I really hope people don't get fooled by some of these offers as I did.
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:33 pm
I guess a good rule to avoid running into a trap would be, to not use a site that's only RELATED to the one it's supposed to give gold/cash, or whatever currency the said site would use. Hm, I've been looking at them often, since it amuses me to see what they want us to purchase to get a virus. The offers depend on your country anyway, and me living in Denmark leaves me with limited choises. All of them require a purchase. They've even got one from Norton, giving a few hundred Cash for purchasing a full version of their product. Norton is a virus itself (sad, but true), so you'd get 2 viruses for the price of 1. Best deal ever...
Some offers I've heard of should even offer illegal downloading, or a membership on a casino site. Gaia being a 13+ site sure has some serious problems talk2hand
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:48 pm
I know I've learnt my lesson. And as with myspace applications they say they get rid of the bad ones but really they are, more oftern than not, just replaced with a similar new one.
But on topic though, the point I was really trying to make was that although you said I can just choose to avoid using gaia cash I fear zOMG will end up like the skittles world people have been complaining about here. We will probably have to use a lot more gaia cash in near future so that gaia can continue to throw money at the problem while we all suffer since gaia is being stuborn.
We all pay for helping to run zOMG when we buy gaia cash. After all, Gaia chooses where are money goes. And I think recenty they've been needing a lot more money so that they can continue to run zOMG.
Bascially it soon will be a lot more peoples problem even if they don't play zOMG.
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