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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:45 pm


Honestly, I'm all for it.
I think a lot of people that completely deserve it don't get it.
Like I heard about a recent murder that happened two years ago on fathers day, where this guy killed his two children, and stuffed their bodies in a suitcase. Their mother reported them missing in June of that year, which caused police to investigate and led to them finding the dead bodies.
He got life in prison instead of death.
The only reason why I think he should've been killed is because their was absolute proof he did it, plus he admitted to it. Plus, if he somehow gets out, he's just going to do it again.

But at the same time, their's a number of people that shouldn't have been killed.
Like people that got framed.
I don't know...

What do you think?
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:10 am


I'm against, yeah I know they deserve death, but i see it different, you know how jesus saved Mary Magdalene from being stoned to death, he said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and nobody did. What I'm trying to say we are nobody to judge and kill, we are not GOD, plus if we did this means we have done a great sin by killing someone. What I would do is just cast them away from society not able to hear a voice, not able to see day light, a whole life of solitude, and after that person died let him rot in hell. Life took its course. Thats what the french did to Napoleon Bonaparte He was sent to isolated island and left there to die alone. Plus I see death as an easy way out, I rather have them suffer and have their mind ******** with them, let them go crazy for what they have done. Yeah I know I might sound a little cruel.

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 9:47 pm


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I'm against, yeah I know they deserve death, but i see it different, you know how jesus saved Mary Magdalene from being stoned to death, he said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and nobody did. What I'm trying to say we are nobody to judge and kill, we are not GOD, plus if we did this means we have done a great sin by killing someone. What I would do is just cast them away from society not able to hear a voice, not able to see day light, a whole life of solitude, and after that person died let him rot in hell. Life took its course. Thats what the french did to Napoleon Bonaparte He was sent to isolated island and left there to die alone. Plus I see death as an easy way out, I rather have them suffer and have their mind ******** with them, let them go crazy for what they have done. Yeah I know I might sound a little cruel.
This is a great argument, and I do agree with it, though you have failed to sway my standing on this issue.

Actually, it did, in a way. I was totally for it, but now I'm somwhere in the middle. Gah.
Anyway, looking at it from one side, the enforcement of punishing someone by taking away their life would, in all logical sence, deter the crime that would lead to this from happening as much. Once you think about it, though, you can't factor something like logic into the equation, because comiting an act of murder or rape or something along those lines is purely illogical, so you can't really aply it. If someone's going to comit murder, they're going to do it no matter what because they want to, and most don't figure they're ever going to get caught. Why try and cover it up if it's pointless, right? Right. So anyway, the person gets caught, they're killed, and it doesn't matter because the next nut job still thinks he/she's invinceble.
It's also really hard to fathom being put to death. Honnestly, when I sit here at cpu, it's easier to imagine jail then the electric chair, and honnestly, jail scares me a poop load more then death by electricution. All those creeps and stuff plus solitary sonfinement... Eh, it makes me start to think that pwehaps that is the crueler punishment.
Not to mention that death is an easier way out... I don't really think it's about the punishment more so then it is just getting the bastards out of the way :/
PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:41 pm


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I'm against, yeah I know they deserve death, but i see it different, you know how jesus saved Mary Magdalene from being stoned to death, he said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and nobody did. What I'm trying to say we are nobody to judge and kill, we are not GOD, plus if we did this means we have done a great sin by killing someone. What I would do is just cast them away from society not able to hear a voice, not able to see day light, a whole life of solitude, and after that person died let him rot in hell. Life took its course. Thats what the french did to Napoleon Bonaparte He was sent to isolated island and left there to die alone. Plus I see death as an easy way out, I rather have them suffer and have their mind ******** with them, let them go crazy for what they have done. Yeah I know I might sound a little cruel.
This is a great argument, and I do agree with it, though you have failed to sway my standing on this issue.

Actually, it did, in a way. I was totally for it, but now I'm somwhere in the middle. Gah.
Anyway, looking at it from one side, the enforcement of punishing someone by taking away their life would, in all logical sence, deter the crime that would lead to this from happening as much. Once you think about it, though, you can't factor something like logic into the equation, because comiting an act of murder or rape or something along those lines is purely illogical, so you can't really aply it. If someone's going to comit murder, they're going to do it no matter what because they want to, and most don't figure they're ever going to get caught. Why try and cover it up if it's pointless, right? Right. So anyway, the person gets caught, they're killed, and it doesn't matter because the next nut job still thinks he/she's invinceble.
It's also really hard to fathom being put to death. Honnestly, when I sit here at cpu, it's easier to imagine jail then the electric chair, and honnestly, jail scares me a poop load more then death by electricution. All those creeps and stuff plus solitary sonfinement... Eh, it makes me start to think that pwehaps that is the crueler punishment.
Not to mention that death is an easier way out... I don't really think it's about the punishment more so then it is just getting the bastards out of the way :/

Mhmm, and TAG, what about people that kill other people in war protecting our country?
It's basically the same thing.
You're put in a situation where you need to protect someone, and if you don't, they'll die. (most likely more than one).
The only way to do it is to kill the other person.
Or, what if you were trying to protect yourself in a life or death situation?
Would you sit there and let the person kill you?
I don't know, it just sounds reasonable. =P

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:30 am


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I'm against, yeah I know they deserve death, but i see it different, you know how jesus saved Mary Magdalene from being stoned to death, he said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and nobody did. What I'm trying to say we are nobody to judge and kill, we are not GOD, plus if we did this means we have done a great sin by killing someone. What I would do is just cast them away from society not able to hear a voice, not able to see day light, a whole life of solitude, and after that person died let him rot in hell. Life took its course. Thats what the french did to Napoleon Bonaparte He was sent to isolated island and left there to die alone. Plus I see death as an easy way out, I rather have them suffer and have their mind ******** with them, let them go crazy for what they have done. Yeah I know I might sound a little cruel.
This is a great argument, and I do agree with it, though you have failed to sway my standing on this issue.

Actually, it did, in a way. I was totally for it, but now I'm somwhere in the middle. Gah.
Anyway, looking at it from one side, the enforcement of punishing someone by taking away their life would, in all logical sence, deter the crime that would lead to this from happening as much. Once you think about it, though, you can't factor something like logic into the equation, because comiting an act of murder or rape or something along those lines is purely illogical, so you can't really aply it. If someone's going to comit murder, they're going to do it no matter what because they want to, and most don't figure they're ever going to get caught. Why try and cover it up if it's pointless, right? Right. So anyway, the person gets caught, they're killed, and it doesn't matter because the next nut job still thinks he/she's invinceble.
It's also really hard to fathom being put to death. Honnestly, when I sit here at cpu, it's easier to imagine jail then the electric chair, and honnestly, jail scares me a poop load more then death by electricution. All those creeps and stuff plus solitary sonfinement... Eh, it makes me start to think that pwehaps that is the crueler punishment.
Not to mention that death is an easier way out... I don't really think it's about the punishment more so then it is just getting the bastards out of the way :/

Mhmm, and TAG, what about people that kill other people in war protecting our country?
It's basically the same thing.
You're put in a situation where you need to protect someone, and if you don't, they'll die. (most likely more than one).
The only way to do it is to kill the other person.
Or, what if you were trying to protect yourself in a life or death situation?
Would you sit there and let the person kill you?
I don't know, it just sounds reasonable. =P
But we are not talking about wars are we? For example the war that is going on , out there in Iraq is a total sham, US picked the fight and they got it, yeah I believe people need to defend themselves but also I think its total inhumaine just to kill inocent people for a lie. WARS are filled with greed because they want something they do not have. Thats a sin right there.
PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:21 pm


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I'm against, yeah I know they deserve death, but i see it different, you know how jesus saved Mary Magdalene from being stoned to death, he said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and nobody did. What I'm trying to say we are nobody to judge and kill, we are not GOD, plus if we did this means we have done a great sin by killing someone. What I would do is just cast them away from society not able to hear a voice, not able to see day light, a whole life of solitude, and after that person died let him rot in hell. Life took its course. Thats what the french did to Napoleon Bonaparte He was sent to isolated island and left there to die alone. Plus I see death as an easy way out, I rather have them suffer and have their mind ******** with them, let them go crazy for what they have done. Yeah I know I might sound a little cruel.
This is a great argument, and I do agree with it, though you have failed to sway my standing on this issue.

Actually, it did, in a way. I was totally for it, but now I'm somwhere in the middle. Gah.
Anyway, looking at it from one side, the enforcement of punishing someone by taking away their life would, in all logical sence, deter the crime that would lead to this from happening as much. Once you think about it, though, you can't factor something like logic into the equation, because comiting an act of murder or rape or something along those lines is purely illogical, so you can't really aply it. If someone's going to comit murder, they're going to do it no matter what because they want to, and most don't figure they're ever going to get caught. Why try and cover it up if it's pointless, right? Right. So anyway, the person gets caught, they're killed, and it doesn't matter because the next nut job still thinks he/she's invinceble.
It's also really hard to fathom being put to death. Honnestly, when I sit here at cpu, it's easier to imagine jail then the electric chair, and honnestly, jail scares me a poop load more then death by electricution. All those creeps and stuff plus solitary sonfinement... Eh, it makes me start to think that pwehaps that is the crueler punishment.
Not to mention that death is an easier way out... I don't really think it's about the punishment more so then it is just getting the bastards out of the way :/

Mhmm, and TAG, what about people that kill other people in war protecting our country?
It's basically the same thing.
You're put in a situation where you need to protect someone, and if you don't, they'll die. (most likely more than one).
The only way to do it is to kill the other person.
Or, what if you were trying to protect yourself in a life or death situation?
Would you sit there and let the person kill you?
I don't know, it just sounds reasonable. =P
But we are not talking about wars are we? For example the war that is going on , out there in Iraq is a total sham, US picked the fight and they got it, yeah I believe people need to defend themselves but also I think its total inhumaine just to kill inocent people for a lie. WARS are filled with greed because they want something they do not have. Thats a sin right there.
Wars really are a sin, to be honnest. The thing is, humans are crap, and we can't be happy with anything, so we sin and start wars :/

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:28 pm


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I'm against, yeah I know they deserve death, but i see it different, you know how jesus saved Mary Magdalene from being stoned to death, he said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and nobody did. What I'm trying to say we are nobody to judge and kill, we are not GOD, plus if we did this means we have done a great sin by killing someone. What I would do is just cast them away from society not able to hear a voice, not able to see day light, a whole life of solitude, and after that person died let him rot in hell. Life took its course. Thats what the french did to Napoleon Bonaparte He was sent to isolated island and left there to die alone. Plus I see death as an easy way out, I rather have them suffer and have their mind ******** with them, let them go crazy for what they have done. Yeah I know I might sound a little cruel.
This is a great argument, and I do agree with it, though you have failed to sway my standing on this issue.

Actually, it did, in a way. I was totally for it, but now I'm somwhere in the middle. Gah.
Anyway, looking at it from one side, the enforcement of punishing someone by taking away their life would, in all logical sence, deter the crime that would lead to this from happening as much. Once you think about it, though, you can't factor something like logic into the equation, because comiting an act of murder or rape or something along those lines is purely illogical, so you can't really aply it. If someone's going to comit murder, they're going to do it no matter what because they want to, and most don't figure they're ever going to get caught. Why try and cover it up if it's pointless, right? Right. So anyway, the person gets caught, they're killed, and it doesn't matter because the next nut job still thinks he/she's invinceble.
It's also really hard to fathom being put to death. Honnestly, when I sit here at cpu, it's easier to imagine jail then the electric chair, and honnestly, jail scares me a poop load more then death by electricution. All those creeps and stuff plus solitary sonfinement... Eh, it makes me start to think that pwehaps that is the crueler punishment.
Not to mention that death is an easier way out... I don't really think it's about the punishment more so then it is just getting the bastards out of the way :/

Mhmm, and TAG, what about people that kill other people in war protecting our country?
It's basically the same thing.
You're put in a situation where you need to protect someone, and if you don't, they'll die. (most likely more than one).
The only way to do it is to kill the other person.
Or, what if you were trying to protect yourself in a life or death situation?
Would you sit there and let the person kill you?
I don't know, it just sounds reasonable. =P
But we are not talking about wars are we? For example the war that is going on , out there in Iraq is a total sham, US picked the fight and they got it, yeah I believe people need to defend themselves but also I think its total inhumaine just to kill inocent people for a lie. WARS are filled with greed because they want something they do not have. Thats a sin right there.
Wars really are a sin, to be honnest. The thing is, humans are crap, and we can't be happy with anything, so we sin and start wars :/

I agree with you on the part that starting wars can be really selfish, evil, sinful, stupid.
But I don't think that the people fighting in the war are.
If they weren't there, we would probably be slaughtered, or we would be forced to go out there and fight.
PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:39 pm


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I'm against, yeah I know they deserve death, but i see it different, you know how jesus saved Mary Magdalene from being stoned to death, he said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and nobody did. What I'm trying to say we are nobody to judge and kill, we are not GOD, plus if we did this means we have done a great sin by killing someone. What I would do is just cast them away from society not able to hear a voice, not able to see day light, a whole life of solitude, and after that person died let him rot in hell. Life took its course. Thats what the french did to Napoleon Bonaparte He was sent to isolated island and left there to die alone. Plus I see death as an easy way out, I rather have them suffer and have their mind ******** with them, let them go crazy for what they have done. Yeah I know I might sound a little cruel.
This is a great argument, and I do agree with it, though you have failed to sway my standing on this issue.

Actually, it did, in a way. I was totally for it, but now I'm somwhere in the middle. Gah.
Anyway, looking at it from one side, the enforcement of punishing someone by taking away their life would, in all logical sence, deter the crime that would lead to this from happening as much. Once you think about it, though, you can't factor something like logic into the equation, because comiting an act of murder or rape or something along those lines is purely illogical, so you can't really aply it. If someone's going to comit murder, they're going to do it no matter what because they want to, and most don't figure they're ever going to get caught. Why try and cover it up if it's pointless, right? Right. So anyway, the person gets caught, they're killed, and it doesn't matter because the next nut job still thinks he/she's invinceble.
It's also really hard to fathom being put to death. Honnestly, when I sit here at cpu, it's easier to imagine jail then the electric chair, and honnestly, jail scares me a poop load more then death by electricution. All those creeps and stuff plus solitary sonfinement... Eh, it makes me start to think that pwehaps that is the crueler punishment.
Not to mention that death is an easier way out... I don't really think it's about the punishment more so then it is just getting the bastards out of the way :/

Mhmm, and TAG, what about people that kill other people in war protecting our country?
It's basically the same thing.
You're put in a situation where you need to protect someone, and if you don't, they'll die. (most likely more than one).
The only way to do it is to kill the other person.
Or, what if you were trying to protect yourself in a life or death situation?
Would you sit there and let the person kill you?
I don't know, it just sounds reasonable. =P
But we are not talking about wars are we? For example the war that is going on , out there in Iraq is a total sham, US picked the fight and they got it, yeah I believe people need to defend themselves but also I think its total inhumaine just to kill inocent people for a lie. WARS are filled with greed because they want something they do not have. Thats a sin right there.
Wars really are a sin, to be honnest. The thing is, humans are crap, and we can't be happy with anything, so we sin and start wars :/

I agree with you on the part that starting wars can be really selfish, evil, sinful, stupid.
But I don't think that the people fighting in the war are.
If they weren't there, we would probably be slaughtered, or we would be forced to go out there and fight.
@ H 3 L L I U M You are abosultly rught we humans are crap, and we start s**t because we are greedy some do because they want something to fight about, like people who like to start drama just to spice up their lifes, its just plain retarded.

@HiggumsPeople who fight in the wars are just simply puppets, if they believe in this times war, that they are fighting for a cause is just sad, because they are not, Yeah i get yah hundred years ago but todays wars are just shams just to gain others land properties. If the big men on the top want to fight, they too should be at in the war.

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:51 pm


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Mhmm, and TAG, what about people that kill other people in war protecting our country?
It's basically the same thing.
You're put in a situation where you need to protect someone, and if you don't, they'll die. (most likely more than one).
The only way to do it is to kill the other person.
Or, what if you were trying to protect yourself in a life or death situation?
Would you sit there and let the person kill you?
I don't know, it just sounds reasonable. =P
But we are not talking about wars are we? For example the war that is going on , out there in Iraq is a total sham, US picked the fight and they got it, yeah I believe people need to defend themselves but also I think its total inhumaine just to kill inocent people for a lie. WARS are filled with greed because they want something they do not have. Thats a sin right there.
Wars really are a sin, to be honnest. The thing is, humans are crap, and we can't be happy with anything, so we sin and start wars :/

I agree with you on the part that starting wars can be really selfish, evil, sinful, stupid.
But I don't think that the people fighting in the war are.
If they weren't there, we would probably be slaughtered, or we would be forced to go out there and fight.
@ H 3 L L I U M You are abosultly rught we humans are crap, and we start s**t because we are greedy some do because they want something to fight about, like people who like to start drama just to spice up their lifes, its just plain retarded.

@HiggumsPeople who fight in the wars are just simply puppets, if they believe in this times war, that they are fighting for a cause is just sad, because they are not, Yeah i get yah hundred years ago but todays wars are just shams just to gain others land properties. If the big men on the top want to fight, they too should be at in the war.

I know, I'm just saying, if our army suddenly disappeared, and we were defenseless, what do you think all of the other countries would do to us?
Take our land?
Kill us?
=P
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:01 am


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Higgums

Mhmm, and TAG, what about people that kill other people in war protecting our country?
It's basically the same thing.
You're put in a situation where you need to protect someone, and if you don't, they'll die. (most likely more than one).
The only way to do it is to kill the other person.
Or, what if you were trying to protect yourself in a life or death situation?
Would you sit there and let the person kill you?
I don't know, it just sounds reasonable. =P
But we are not talking about wars are we? For example the war that is going on , out there in Iraq is a total sham, US picked the fight and they got it, yeah I believe people need to defend themselves but also I think its total inhumaine just to kill inocent people for a lie. WARS are filled with greed because they want something they do not have. Thats a sin right there.
Wars really are a sin, to be honnest. The thing is, humans are crap, and we can't be happy with anything, so we sin and start wars :/

I agree with you on the part that starting wars can be really selfish, evil, sinful, stupid.
But I don't think that the people fighting in the war are.
If they weren't there, we would probably be slaughtered, or we would be forced to go out there and fight.
@ H 3 L L I U M You are abosultly rught we humans are crap, and we start s**t because we are greedy some do because they want something to fight about, like people who like to start drama just to spice up their lifes, its just plain retarded.

@HiggumsPeople who fight in the wars are just simply puppets, if they believe in this times war, that they are fighting for a cause is just sad, because they are not, Yeah i get yah hundred years ago but todays wars are just shams just to gain others land properties. If the big men on the top want to fight, they too should be at in the war.

I know, I'm just saying, if our army suddenly disappeared, and we were defenseless, what do you think all of the other countries would do to us?
Take our land?
Kill us?
=P
Thats why The Second Amendment on the BILL OF RIGHTS was created •Right to Bear Arms (1791) You have a gun use it.

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:35 am


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Wars really are a sin, to be honnest. The thing is, humans are crap, and we can't be happy with anything, so we sin and start wars :/

I agree with you on the part that starting wars can be really selfish, evil, sinful, stupid.
But I don't think that the people fighting in the war are.
If they weren't there, we would probably be slaughtered, or we would be forced to go out there and fight.
@ H 3 L L I U M You are abosultly rught we humans are crap, and we start s**t because we are greedy some do because they want something to fight about, like people who like to start drama just to spice up their lifes, its just plain retarded.

@HiggumsPeople who fight in the wars are just simply puppets, if they believe in this times war, that they are fighting for a cause is just sad, because they are not, Yeah i get yah hundred years ago but todays wars are just shams just to gain others land properties. If the big men on the top want to fight, they too should be at in the war.

I know, I'm just saying, if our army suddenly disappeared, and we were defenseless, what do you think all of the other countries would do to us?
Take our land?
Kill us?
=P
Thats why The Second Amendment on the BILL OF RIGHTS was created •Right to Bear Arms (1791) You have a gun use it.

Soooo, you're saying we'll have to kill people?
xD
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:36 pm


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Wars really are a sin, to be honnest. The thing is, humans are crap, and we can't be happy with anything, so we sin and start wars :/

I agree with you on the part that starting wars can be really selfish, evil, sinful, stupid.
But I don't think that the people fighting in the war are.
If they weren't there, we would probably be slaughtered, or we would be forced to go out there and fight.
@ H 3 L L I U M You are abosultly rught we humans are crap, and we start s**t because we are greedy some do because they want something to fight about, like people who like to start drama just to spice up their lifes, its just plain retarded.

@HiggumsPeople who fight in the wars are just simply puppets, if they believe in this times war, that they are fighting for a cause is just sad, because they are not, Yeah i get yah hundred years ago but todays wars are just shams just to gain others land properties. If the big men on the top want to fight, they too should be at in the war.

I know, I'm just saying, if our army suddenly disappeared, and we were defenseless, what do you think all of the other countries would do to us?
Take our land?
Kill us?
=P
Thats why The Second Amendment on the BILL OF RIGHTS was created •Right to Bear Arms (1791) You have a gun use it.

Soooo, you're saying we'll have to kill people?
xD

Using a gun doesn't always equal death. Shooting someone in the foot is as good a method as any to get them to leave you the hell alone. Still, in some situations, death by someone's, maybe even your own, hand is inevitable will happen. It's called instinct, and when it comes down to the wire, you'll act on it.
It's just another example of how crappy the human design is. Not to bash on God, or anything, but REALLY.
All we are are over smart animals that like to pretend we've evolved :/
Sad, but utterly and inescapably true.

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:50 pm


I'm half and half with this whole deal. On one hand, it sounds nice to rid the world of the genuinely guilty people who take pleasure from doing horrid things to another person. On the other hand, thinking that we have the right to choose whether a person dies or not is the same thing, simply in different context, so it really doesn't resolve anything. Humans seem to have that nature of killing for pleasure and defense - guess it stems from the whole survival of the fittest regimen.

So I guess I don't really have an exact stand on the subject, but there're my thoughts on it, at least!
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:04 pm


It depends on what they did and how they kill them really. Painless and quick, the 'chair, or hanging them, I personally think the 'chair' shouldn't be aloud but a shot and your dead wouldn't be to bad. Hanging in my view is quite a bad way to die -.-||.... A lot of humans deserve to die but really, make it painless if so >w<.... So I'm with the shot, okay with hanging, and against the electric chair - if it's still used I mean...

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:11 pm


H 3 L L I U M
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@ H 3 L L I U M You are abosultly rught we humans are crap, and we start s**t because we are greedy some do because they want something to fight about, like people who like to start drama just to spice up their lifes, its just plain retarded.

@HiggumsPeople who fight in the wars are just simply puppets, if they believe in this times war, that they are fighting for a cause is just sad, because they are not, Yeah i get yah hundred years ago but todays wars are just shams just to gain others land properties. If the big men on the top want to fight, they too should be at in the war.

I know, I'm just saying, if our army suddenly disappeared, and we were defenseless, what do you think all of the other countries would do to us?
Take our land?
Kill us?
=P
Thats why The Second Amendment on the BILL OF RIGHTS was created •Right to Bear Arms (1791) You have a gun use it.

Soooo, you're saying we'll have to kill people?
xD

Using a gun doesn't always equal death. Shooting someone in the foot is as good a method as any to get them to leave you the hell alone. Still, in some situations, death by someone's, maybe even your own, hand is inevitable will happen. It's called instinct, and when it comes down to the wire, you'll act on it.
It's just another example of how crappy the human design is. Not to bash on God, or anything, but REALLY.
All we are are over smart animals that like to pretend we've evolved :/
Sad, but utterly and inescapably true.

Yeah, humans really do suck. :/
@kangaskhaaan
That's what most people tend to say. =P
@Dark Cookiez
Yeah, the electric chair does freak me out. >.<
I would say the most painful way to go would be being set on fire.
Most people end up dying from the toxic fumes and not the burns, but you experience the most severe amount of pain, searing away your skin and eyebrows. Only a small portion of your body goes numb. Dx
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