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 Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:27 pm
ok this is for all us transfolks in the guild, any tips that you've figured out that'll make passing easier?
We all pick up one or two as the process goes on maybe it's about time we shared. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:51 pm
Depends on which way you want to pass (FTM or MTF), body shape, etc.
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 8:51 pm
Passing as a guy... getting a buzz cut, and dressing like a slob seems to be a favorite... but enough of that, I couldn't pass as a guy 100% of the time even when I technically was a guy... At the same time there always seems to be someone who'll look right through me now, and pronounce me a guy no mater how good I look as a woman.
One thing that everyone should work for is to dress your age, and body type. There are plenty of magazines that will give you tips. Look for these, and observe what others in your local are wearing. I'm tall MtF and tended to favor tunic styled tops. A long top which helps to camouflage what is between the legs helps. Also, tight pants are not necessarily a no no. Baggy pants that don't fit right are. Good quality clothing that fits properly is a must for the MtF and don't over do it. You don't want to draw too much attention to yourself. Passing successfully means blending in. There are those who will complain that more trans aren't more open about being trans, but lets face it, we are not in it to be drag queens. speaking for myself I want nothing more then to live a quite normal life as the person I was meant to be in the first place.
If you are the stocky big broad shouldered type with short hair, wearing a frilly girly blouse, and tying pig tails in your hair isn't going to cut it. You stopped looking cute a long time ago. I know this my hurt, but its the truth. I can't do cute, but I can go for the sophisticated, classy look. When it comes right down to it, it is up to each of us to find our own individual style.
>^,,^<
Meow.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:54 am
KitzumiKitty Passing as a guy... getting a buzz cut, and dressing like a slob seems to be a favorite... but enough of that, I couldn't pass as a guy 100% of the time even when I technical was a guy... At the same time there always seems to be someone who'll look right through me now, and pronounce me a guy no mater how good I look as a woman. One thing that everyone should work for is to dress your age, and body type. There are plenty of magazines that will give you tips. Look for these, and observe what others in your local are wearing. I'm tall MtF and tended to favor tunic styled tops. A long top which helps to camouflage what is between the legs helps. Also, tight pants are not necessarily a no no. Baggy pants that don't fit right are. Good quality clothing that fits properly is a must for the MtF and don't over do it. You don't want to draw too much attention to yourself. Passing successfully means blending in. There are those who will complain that more trans aren't more open about being trans, but lets face it, we are not in it to be drag queens. speaking for myself I want nothing more then to live a quite normal life as the person I was meant to be in the first place. If you are the stocky big broad shouldered type with short hair, wearing a frilly girly blouse, and tying pig tails in your hair isn't going to cut it. You stopped looking cute a long time ago. I know this my hurt, but its the truth. I can't do cute, but I can go for the sophisticated, classy look. When it comes right down to it, it is up to each of us to find our own individual style. >^,,^< Meow. Acting your gender helps a lot too.I'm by far the least passable MtF in my town but because of the way I carry myself I haven't been "SIR'd" in over a year now.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:36 am
Tg Princess43 Acting your gender helps a lot too.I'm by far the least passable MtF in my town but because of the way I carry myself I haven't been "SIR'd" in over a year now. I wouldn't exactly say "acting your gender" because that would lead a person into acting overly feminine or overly masculine which would pretty much be a lie as to who they truly are. I think one of the biggest game changers is confidence. If you're confident in who you are and confident in your gender presentation nobody is going to ******** with you.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 12:08 pm
Zero Fail Tg Princess43 Acting your gender helps a lot too.I'm by far the least passable MtF in my town but because of the way I carry myself I haven't been "SIR'd" in over a year now. I wouldn't exactly say "acting your gender" because that would lead a person into acting overly feminine or overly masculine which would pretty much be a lie as to who they truly are. I think one of the biggest game changers is confidence. If you're confident in who you are and confident in your gender presentation nobody is going to ******** with you.
Yes that's true mew, confidence, and also dressing your age and such, who says what's dressing your age and what's not? These days women dress more like little girls and little girls dress more like women, it's like the style has reversed, see what I'm talking about, look up some of the newest styles and I even saw a woman's dress with a peter pan collar, it was cute mew, but a little too young for me. Still though I love the sweet lolita style and that is seen as very little girl cute, I am probably the worst person to talk about passing because to me that term is irrelevant. We aren't "passing" that sounds like we are just acting a play in a part, I was "acting" when I was forced to play the part of a boy, I am no longer an actress now though mew. I am Chelsea, and as an adult, and Chelsea I have a right to dress and act however i want mew, and I have a right to exercise that just like every other woman and man. No woman or man stays with just one set of rules, to be honest I don't really know if there are very many if at all gender differences between us mew. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. And maybe there's just exceptions mew, but either way, we are who we are. And we are awesome for being who we are, whether we are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, a boy, a girl, both, neither or a three toed squirrel. We Rock!
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:29 pm
Zero Fail Tg Princess43 Acting your gender helps a lot too.I'm by far the least passable MtF in my town but because of the way I carry myself I haven't been "SIR'd" in over a year now. I wouldn't exactly say "acting your gender" because that would lead a person into acting overly feminine or overly masculine which would pretty much be a lie as to who they truly are. I think one of the biggest game changers is confidence. If you're confident in who you are and confident in your gender presentation nobody is going to ******** with you. As far as acting ones gender, all I've ever had to do was just be myself. 4laugh
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:39 am
Zero Fail Tg Princess43 Acting your gender helps a lot too.I'm by far the least passable MtF in my town but because of the way I carry myself I haven't been "SIR'd" in over a year now. I wouldn't exactly say "acting your gender" because that would lead a person into acting overly feminine or overly masculine which would pretty much be a lie as to who they truly are. I think one of the biggest game changers is confidence. If you're confident in who you are and confident in your gender presentation nobody is going to ******** with you. that's what I meant don't go around inna dress and grab yourself down there if your trying to fit into the female role or wearing ghetto jeans half way down your butt with a rag tag t-shirt and prance around all giddy and such if trying to fit into being a male. act appropriately to the gender your trying to fit into
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:51 am
princesschelsea5 Zero Fail Tg Princess43 Acting your gender helps a lot too.I'm by far the least passable MtF in my town but because of the way I carry myself I haven't been "SIR'd" in over a year now. I wouldn't exactly say "acting your gender" because that would lead a person into acting overly feminine or overly masculine which would pretty much be a lie as to who they truly are. I think one of the biggest game changers is confidence. If you're confident in who you are and confident in your gender presentation nobody is going to ******** with you.
Yes that's true mew, confidence, and also dressing your age and such, who says what's dressing your age and what's not? These days women dress more like little girls and little girls dress more like women, it's like the style has reversed, see what I'm talking about, look up some of the newest styles and I even saw a woman's dress with a peter pan collar, it was cute mew, but a little too young for me. Still though I love the sweet lolita style and that is seen as very little girl cute, I am probably the worst person to talk about passing because to me that term is irrelevant. We aren't "passing" that sounds like we are just acting a play in a part, I was "acting" when I was forced to play the part of a boy, I am no longer an actress now though mew. I am Chelsea, and as an adult, and Chelsea I have a right to dress and act however i want mew, and I have a right to exercise that just like every other woman and man. No woman or man stays with just one set of rules, to be honest I don't really know if there are very many if at all gender differences between us mew. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. And maybe there's just exceptions mew, but either way, we are who we are. And we are awesome for being who we are, whether we are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, a boy, a girl, both, neither or a three toed squirrel. We Rock!OMG Chelsea I love you you Rock heart you are so right, I'm old enough to be some of you all's grandma and I'm noticing the switch in styles as well it seems the older we get the less we want to grow up its almost like were trying to live out "The curious case of Benjamin Buttons"(it's a movie for those who don't know) irl.But wouldn't a three toed squirrel have trouble holding her nuts lol
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:11 am
Tg Princess43 Zero Fail Tg Princess43 Acting your gender helps a lot too.I'm by far the least passable MtF in my town but because of the way I carry myself I haven't been "SIR'd" in over a year now. I wouldn't exactly say "acting your gender" because that would lead a person into acting overly feminine or overly masculine which would pretty much be a lie as to who they truly are. I think one of the biggest game changers is confidence. If you're confident in who you are and confident in your gender presentation nobody is going to ******** with you. that's what I meant don't go around inna dress and grab yourself down there if your trying to fit into the female role or wearing ghetto jeans half way down your butt with a rag tag t-shirt and prance around all giddy and such if trying to fit into being a male. act appropriately to the gender your trying to fit into I don't know... I mean, I prance around all giddy because that's the kind of dude I am. I'm just a kinda femmey dude. I don't exactly pass too often but I have my reasons. I'll just say what I know for those that are FAAB (female assigned at birth) but wish to pass as male. A binder is a shirt made to compress a chest. They were created for men with gynecomastia but work on a female chest. Underworks is a great site for one. Layers help conceal wide hips or chest bumps. You could wear a small sports bra (like the frog bra) if a binder isn't possible then a tight men's undershirt, a T-shirt, button down, and an opened vest. Opened blazers also work well. If you're dressing as male as a one time thing such as drag or for the thrill of dressing as a male facial hair wouldn't be too big of a deal. A great way to create realistic facial hair is by taking crepe wool, chopping it up very fine and glue it to your face using an adhesive like spirit gum. It works fairly well. Then...there's hair on your head. Different cuts work for different faces, and depending on what the population of masculine women is like some might work some might not work. A flat top is always masculinizing but will look odd on many faces. Hudson's Guide has better/more information about hair, dressing, etc.
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:06 pm
Everyone has some good ideas, and as far as age goes, well that is relative, that's why its important to pay attention to what others are wearing. Cheep gimmicks are probably something to ovoid, as people will be able to tell. It's like at a ren fair where someone wears a cheep drugstore costume, and winds up standing out like a red dress in a sea of gray suits. Put as much effort into it as possible. The better you look the more confident you will feel. cool
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:27 pm
Um well i'm a MTF and though i still just wear casual female clothing, maybe a shirt and shoes. and jeans i don't have nothing much but i still get "Sir'd" cause of the beard stubble which is basically none.. since i use and electric shaver then shave then moisturize, but its still noticeable.. but since m clothign may pass and neutral i don't get commented.. or i haven't heard it..
Um any idea how to deal with that beard stubble??? please!!!
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:20 pm
Night Scream Um well i'm a MTF and though i still just wear casual female clothing, maybe a shirt and shoes. and jeans i don't have nothing much but i still get "Sir'd" cause of the beard stubble which is basically none.. since i use and electric shaver then shave then moisturize, but its still noticeable.. but since m clothign may pass and neutral i don't get commented.. or i haven't heard it.. Um any idea how to deal with that beard stubble??? please!!! Concealer/foundation is helpful. It depends on what color your stubble is. Use some with a slightly yellow tone on the darker parts.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:36 pm
Zero Fail Night Scream Um well i'm a MTF and though i still just wear casual female clothing, maybe a shirt and shoes. and jeans i don't have nothing much but i still get "Sir'd" cause of the beard stubble which is basically none.. since i use and electric shaver then shave then moisturize, but its still noticeable.. but since m clothign may pass and neutral i don't get commented.. or i haven't heard it.. Um any idea how to deal with that beard stubble??? please!!! Concealer/foundation is helpful. It depends on what color your stubble is. Use some with a slightly yellow tone on the darker parts. um mys tubble is about a light ash color.. . Ums till a bit afraid to buy make up.. but i will have to get so courage do do it though...
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:14 pm
Night Scream Zero Fail Night Scream Um well i'm a MTF and though i still just wear casual female clothing, maybe a shirt and shoes. and jeans i don't have nothing much but i still get "Sir'd" cause of the beard stubble which is basically none.. since i use and electric shaver then shave then moisturize, but its still noticeable.. but since m clothign may pass and neutral i don't get commented.. or i haven't heard it.. Um any idea how to deal with that beard stubble??? please!!! Concealer/foundation is helpful. It depends on what color your stubble is. Use some with a slightly yellow tone on the darker parts. um mys tubble is about a light ash color.. . Ums till a bit afraid to buy make up.. but i will have to get so courage do do it though... Eyebrow shaping also helps. Here is a link with passing tips: MTF passing tips
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