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MatchaCosmos

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:46 pm


Ok, I've been a member of my colorguard for going on my fourth and final year... I'm also our captain.

Ok, we have a girl (Let's call her A) ... She's a freshman and tomorrow will be our third day of band camp. We're working on our routine and she's constantly being negative "I can't do this! It's to hard!" and then she won't listen to us encourage her... she gets frusterated easily and cries, I can tell she'll be our drama trauma for this year.

I need some tips for ::

arrow Keeping her positive
arrow Keeping the guard focused on practice
arrow Getting them to stop whining

I don't want to come off as a major b***h to them, but this is my final year and last year we made 11th in the state! I want to be in the top ten this year or even get a caption award. They constantly want a break and are always goofing off

any advice is appreciated seeing as I've talked to them over and over about this but I don't want to yell at them
PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:03 pm



I know how you feel. We had squad demos in the last day of rookie camp today, and this one chick didn't believe in us while we marched out playing the intro song. Do what my band does. Make them do pushups until they stop complaining or tell them the basic stuff. Like, if they count loud enough, they'll sound stronger & more confident. Or if they practice at home, they'll feel better about themselves.

sleazepuff


MatchaCosmos

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:21 pm


well, our motto is really cheesie, but it's
"We're cleaner when we count!" and "Practice hard rock hard!" and we make them count uber-loud, but it's this one girl, I can tell she has an attitude problem
PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:46 pm



Like, while we practice standing at attention for ungodly amounts of time, our officers usually lecture us on what could be better. Try doing that. If that doesn't work, I dunno where to go from there. >___<

sleazepuff


Emathai

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:27 pm


biggrin Wow, this is a tough one , especially without knowing them/ her personally. But I know how you feel. I'm also in my fourth and final year and this is my second year as captain. First off, I don't mean to sound offensive, but it sounds like your director is doing squat sweatdrop . We're having a little bit of the same problem, but it's only recently arisen and the problem we have is that a couple freshmen just aren't putting in the effort they need to. We had a couple "I can't"s today, but those were instantly stopped thanks to Mr. B, our director. We're in our third week of guard/ band camp right now. Before I start suggesting any answers, I have a question. Does your guard have more than one officer? Or is it only you, as captain, who leads? In ours, we have three officers; me as captain, and then two squad leaders. The guard is broken up into three groups, or squads, and each of us get a group of girls assigned to us. We hold sectionals with our particular squad so that the guard gets more individual attention, instead of me just trying to help 20 girls on my own. Do ya'll have anything like that? Oh, and if you don't mind me asking, what state are you from, our band's also would like to compete in State, maybe we'll run into each other? biggrin
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:45 pm


Definitely talk to them about attitude. If you say "I can't," then it's true, and you won't be able to do it. Saying "I can" may be too hard, but you can at least say "I'm having trouble with it now, but I will get it soon," and then you have to work on it. Also try to get them to tell you specifically what they don't understand, and see if you can help them out.
I cried a lot my freshman year. It's tough. Let them know that the harder they work and the more positive they are, the easier things will get.
Also you are right - when you talk to them, you need to be really understanding and not sound like you're being preachy and mean. I don't listen to seniors when they sound like that.

(Please note that much of what I said originally came from my flag tech, Sarah, yet boosted by my own personal experience.)

We had some pretty negative freshmen last year, but this year they're great and our new freshmen are hanging on really well.

Neekroo


MatchaCosmos

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:27 pm


We are in Tennessee.

I am the only CAPTAIN, but I share equal amounts of descision making among two other girls. Though I represent the guard.

our problem is they lack the motivation and respect.

I try being nice and they blow me off
PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:15 pm


-I.c.H.i.G.o-P.i.E-
Our problem is they lack the motivation and respect.

I try being nice and they blow me off


Hm.... in that case, maybe it's time to stop being so nice. Now, I don't mean be a total jerk, just be more... stern. Really, don't be afraid to get angry with them. Talk to them about how important it is to want to be great, and that it's not going to feel very rewarding at the end of the season if they don't work hard now.

Neekroo


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:41 pm


Last winter we had the same problem.
She was a pit rookie who thought she could handle it.
That just goes to show that what we do is just as hard as what they do.
rolleyes
PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:16 pm


For my guard I have a no negitivity rule. If I hear a I cant or this is to hard or something of that sort they do jumping jacks, Drop spins and a few other things. But our guard does nothing alone so if one says that we all pay the price. This makes it so everyone will tell her to focus. I would have a one on one talk with her before or after practice and tell her she needs to step it up and stop being negitive. If things get to a all time worse dont be hessitate to go to the band director they can usually help.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:39 pm


shriekie was a bit insecure at first and she still says I can't do this or I won'te be able to do it, but I think now, she's just modest. And she's really good. You have to encourage them and tell them not to say they can't. We were banned from saying "I can't" and so one of our members starting saying "I carrot" and that's banned too. Make can't seem like an extremely bad cuss word that should never be used in color guard. Because nobody can't do something in color guard, they're just inexperienced. Everyone can do it, just not perfectly. No, I'm not a captain, but I have been trying to lead the flagline this year to make us better and I try to encourage and push my friends farther. If your guard is whining, there's nothing you can do about it except tell yur director. They should be able to help deal with the problem. Maybe sit down at the end of a practice and say, "hey, guys, we need an attitude adjustment." Our guard had a whining/talking problem and one practice we had a talk about it. For staying focused. If your ever away from the band for a while, say, here, if you focus for this hour or so, we'll give you a fifteen minute break to do whatever they want. Or play a game like duck, duck, goose or down by the banks. It will take there minds off some of the stress of doing color guard. We do that to keep us sane through band camp especially.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:25 pm


ok, I've got them focusing a little bit better, now I need some tricks for getting us in sync quick... our first game is next friday and our drop spins are nasty, I've had them do them with closed eyes and told them to listen to the silks, then I tried telling them to count loud... and told them to match with me, told them down was 1 up was 2 and nothing is working to get them in time. I know it takes time, but we practice drop spins for 30 minutes before going to our routines

MatchaCosmos


Naritu the butterfly

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:46 pm


We have an equal problem! this one girl she our rookie and she is really whinny and its like everything revolves around her. Our captains don't tolerate it. They say if you mess around and don't practice your aren't dedicated enough. if you are dedicated then you don't belong here. That is basically the nice way of saying try harder or your out!
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:16 pm


Keep being positive, and pretend all of her negativity doesn't exist. Like, if she says "This is too hard" reply "That's the spirit, never give up!" with a big smile. And then add "I'd be happy to help you with it on break" and actually make her work with you on it on break. Not only will she get better, but she'll be getting her just desserts for complaining during practice =3

Erin Sovenya

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