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Lupin The Great

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:05 pm


This past summer has been pock-marked with acts of domestic islamic terrorism.

One such attack in Seattle....Shooting in Seattle


And one in San Francisco....Hellish Hit and Run


Obviously we are not safe from radical islam even after 9-11 and the Post-9-11 acts and security measures.

Discuss:
-Radical Islam in America
-Is Homeland Security really doing it's job?
-What can Americans do to prepare for the worst (i.e. Nuclear, Biological, Chemical, etc...)?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:21 pm


Radical of anything scares me.. I am actually more scared of readical christians then muslims right now

Homeland security is supposted to protect us... They are doing their job, to the best they can (with their funding)

Well, if it happens it happens

agrab0ekim


RavenMcCoy
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:30 pm


Lupin, did you even read your own articles?
The first article describes a hate crime committed by a man of Arab descent - we don't even know his religion at this point, and assumption is the mother of all ******** second article describes an unfortunate incident of what appears to be temporary insanity, committed by a man who happens to be Muslim. It is not specified as a hate crime nor an act of terrorism, and posting it as an example of "radical Muslim terrorism" is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who chooses to read it, not to mention insulting to actual acts of terrorism. This "rampage" was not pre-meditated, so it's not an act of terrorism, and he wasn't targeting any one group, sex, religion in particular, so it's not even able to be labeled a hate crime.

Please read your sources more carefully in the future.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:26 am


RavenMcCoy
Lupin, did you even read your own articles?
The first article describes a hate crime committed by a man of Arab descent - we don't even know his religion at this point, and assumption is the mother of all ******** second article describes an unfortunate incident of what appears to be temporary insanity, committed by a man who happens to be Muslim. It is not specified as a hate crime nor an act of terrorism, and posting it as an example of "radical Muslim terrorism" is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who chooses to read it, not to mention insulting to actual acts of terrorism. This "rampage" was not pre-meditated, so it's not an act of terrorism, and he wasn't targeting any one group, sex, religion in particular, so it's not even able to be labeled a hate crime.

Please read your sources more carefully in the future.


but see, then he couldnt target one group

agrab0ekim


Lupin The Great

PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:56 pm


RavenMcCoy
Lupin, did you even read your own articles?
The first article describes a hate crime committed by a man of Arab descent - we don't even know his religion at this point, and assumption is the mother of all ******** second article describes an unfortunate incident of what appears to be temporary insanity, committed by a man who happens to be Muslim. It is not specified as a hate crime nor an act of terrorism, and posting it as an example of "radical Muslim terrorism" is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who chooses to read it, not to mention insulting to actual acts of terrorism. This "rampage" was not pre-meditated, so it's not an act of terrorism, and he wasn't targeting any one group, sex, religion in particular, so it's not even able to be labeled a hate crime.

Please read your sources more carefully in the future.
This is not the first time a muslim man has used a car to run over civilians in this country, I don't believe that a mental snap was the only reason for that hit and run attack. And terrorism doesn't necessarily have to be some bold plan that takes months to come up with. I could just go to a train station and gun down people who come out of a train with out thinking twice. So crimes like this are considered acts of terrorism. Terror is Terror no matter the mental status.

And I will always look carefully at my articles ma'am.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:57 pm


agrab0ekim
Radical of anything scares me.. I am actually more scared of readical christians then muslims right now

Homeland security is supposted to protect us... They are doing their job, to the best they can (with their funding)

Well, if it happens it happens
Radical christians? When was the last act of terrorism commited by radical christians?

Lupin The Great


agrab0ekim

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:01 am


Lupin The Great
agrab0ekim
Radical of anything scares me.. I am actually more scared of readical christians then muslims right now

Homeland security is supposted to protect us... They are doing their job, to the best they can (with their funding)

Well, if it happens it happens
Radical christians? When was the last act of terrorism commited by radical christians?


well, the bombing at the 92 olympics, alot of bombings of abortion clinics
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:02 am


Lupin The Great
RavenMcCoy
Lupin, did you even read your own articles?
The first article describes a hate crime committed by a man of Arab descent - we don't even know his religion at this point, and assumption is the mother of all ******** second article describes an unfortunate incident of what appears to be temporary insanity, committed by a man who happens to be Muslim. It is not specified as a hate crime nor an act of terrorism, and posting it as an example of "radical Muslim terrorism" is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who chooses to read it, not to mention insulting to actual acts of terrorism. This "rampage" was not pre-meditated, so it's not an act of terrorism, and he wasn't targeting any one group, sex, religion in particular, so it's not even able to be labeled a hate crime.

Please read your sources more carefully in the future.
This is not the first time a muslim man has used a car to run over civilians in this country, I don't believe that a mental snap was the only reason for that hit and run attack. And terrorism doesn't necessarily have to be some bold plan that takes months to come up with. I could just go to a train station and gun down people who come out of a train with out thinking twice. So crimes like this are considered acts of terrorism. Terror is Terror no matter the mental status.

And I will always look carefully at my articles ma'am.


bush is a terrorist by the definition. He does strike terror into my heart, because i am afraid that the constitution will never recover

agrab0ekim


Lupin The Great

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:58 pm


agrab0ekim
Lupin The Great
agrab0ekim
Radical of anything scares me.. I am actually more scared of readical christians then muslims right now

Homeland security is supposted to protect us... They are doing their job, to the best they can (with their funding)

Well, if it happens it happens
Radical christians? When was the last act of terrorism commited by radical christians?


well, the bombing at the 92 olympics, alot of bombings of abortion clinics
Oh that old stuff happened years ago, and correction it was the '96 olympics in Atlanta I was there as a child.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:00 pm


agrab0ekim
Lupin The Great
RavenMcCoy
Lupin, did you even read your own articles?
The first article describes a hate crime committed by a man of Arab descent - we don't even know his religion at this point, and assumption is the mother of all ******** second article describes an unfortunate incident of what appears to be temporary insanity, committed by a man who happens to be Muslim. It is not specified as a hate crime nor an act of terrorism, and posting it as an example of "radical Muslim terrorism" is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who chooses to read it, not to mention insulting to actual acts of terrorism. This "rampage" was not pre-meditated, so it's not an act of terrorism, and he wasn't targeting any one group, sex, religion in particular, so it's not even able to be labeled a hate crime.

Please read your sources more carefully in the future.
This is not the first time a muslim man has used a car to run over civilians in this country, I don't believe that a mental snap was the only reason for that hit and run attack. And terrorism doesn't necessarily have to be some bold plan that takes months to come up with. I could just go to a train station and gun down people who come out of a train with out thinking twice. So crimes like this are considered acts of terrorism. Terror is Terror no matter the mental status.

And I will always look carefully at my articles ma'am.


bush is a terrorist by the definition. He does strike terror into my heart, because i am afraid that the constitution will never recover
Afraid of Bush?? He's a C average student, he maybe a terrorist by the books but come on does he seriously look like he's capable of "striking terror" into anyone.

Lupin The Great


agrab0ekim

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:18 pm


Lupin The Great
agrab0ekim
Lupin The Great
agrab0ekim
Radical of anything scares me.. I am actually more scared of readical christians then muslims right now

Homeland security is supposted to protect us... They are doing their job, to the best they can (with their funding)

Well, if it happens it happens
Radical christians? When was the last act of terrorism commited by radical christians?


well, the bombing at the 92 olympics, alot of bombings of abortion clinics
Oh that old stuff happened years ago, and correction it was the '96 olympics in Atlanta I was there as a child.


sorry, wrong election

no, there are numerous attempts of bombing on abortion clinics often. Ten years ago is not long ago... 9/11 was half of that
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:19 pm


Lupin The Great
agrab0ekim
Lupin The Great
RavenMcCoy
Lupin, did you even read your own articles?
The first article describes a hate crime committed by a man of Arab descent - we don't even know his religion at this point, and assumption is the mother of all ******** second article describes an unfortunate incident of what appears to be temporary insanity, committed by a man who happens to be Muslim. It is not specified as a hate crime nor an act of terrorism, and posting it as an example of "radical Muslim terrorism" is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who chooses to read it, not to mention insulting to actual acts of terrorism. This "rampage" was not pre-meditated, so it's not an act of terrorism, and he wasn't targeting any one group, sex, religion in particular, so it's not even able to be labeled a hate crime.

Please read your sources more carefully in the future.
This is not the first time a muslim man has used a car to run over civilians in this country, I don't believe that a mental snap was the only reason for that hit and run attack. And terrorism doesn't necessarily have to be some bold plan that takes months to come up with. I could just go to a train station and gun down people who come out of a train with out thinking twice. So crimes like this are considered acts of terrorism. Terror is Terror no matter the mental status.

And I will always look carefully at my articles ma'am.


bush is a terrorist by the definition. He does strike terror into my heart, because i am afraid that the constitution will never recover
Afraid of Bush?? He's a C average student, he maybe a terrorist by the books but come on does he seriously look like he's capable of "striking terror" into anyone.


i am just saying that terrorisim as a definition is easy to apply to any persons

agrab0ekim


RavenMcCoy
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:17 pm


Lupin The Great
RavenMcCoy
Lupin, did you even read your own articles?
The first article describes a hate crime committed by a man of Arab descent - we don't even know his religion at this point, and assumption is the mother of all ******** second article describes an unfortunate incident of what appears to be temporary insanity, committed by a man who happens to be Muslim. It is not specified as a hate crime nor an act of terrorism, and posting it as an example of "radical Muslim terrorism" is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who chooses to read it, not to mention insulting to actual acts of terrorism. This "rampage" was not pre-meditated, so it's not an act of terrorism, and he wasn't targeting any one group, sex, religion in particular, so it's not even able to be labeled a hate crime.

Please read your sources more carefully in the future.
This is not the first time a muslim man has used a car to run over civilians in this country, I don't believe that a mental snap was the only reason for that hit and run attack. And terrorism doesn't necessarily have to be some bold plan that takes months to come up with. I could just go to a train station and gun down people who come out of a train with out thinking twice. So crimes like this are considered acts of terrorism. Terror is Terror no matter the mental status.

And I will always look carefully at my articles ma'am.


So what you're saying is, you've already let the terrorists win. That's what you're saying, right? Because your mindset is exactly the mindset that the people who actually are out to get America want Americans to have. With you, they've succeeded.

You cannot look at a Muslim without thinking "terrorist". If a white man had snapped one day and went on a killing rampage with his car, would you call it an act of terrorism? ******** no, you wouldn't. Because you now associate "terrorism" with "brown-skinned guy".

Do you know what an "act of terrorism" is? It's a violent act with the express purpose of instilling terror. Why else do you think al Qaeda releases videos right after they do s**t? They want us to know they're doing it to scare us. This guy hasn't even released a statement to the public yet. The police haven't ruled it premeditated, and the man, though Muslim, was an American citizen.

Your claim that this is an "act of terrorism" is bullshit and unfounded. And yes, I'm sure other Muslims have run over people with cars in this country. People do it on a daily basis. People of all faiths and races have accidents, hit-and-runs, kill people with their cars, and have completely batshit moments where yes, they go on killing sprees. I'm not advocating this type of behaviour, but I am pointing out that if it was a black man, or a Jew, you wouldn't be so goddamned quick to label it as "radical Black terror" or "radical Jewish terror".

Assumption Is the Mother of All ********>
Repeat this to yourself until you get the message. You weren't there, you're not studying the case, and you weren't involved. The police - you know, the people who's job it is to figure out what the ******** happened? - haven't made any insinuation whatsoever like what you're insinuating. Until that happens, find another article to prove your point.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:30 pm


I can find articles of planning to bomb abortion clinic as recent as three years ago.

Quote:
On February 13, 2004, Stephen John Jordi, a thirty-five-year-old former Army Ranger from Coconut Creek, Florida, charged with planning a terrorist bombing campaign, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court to one count of attempted firebombing.

As part of the plea agreement, prosecutors dropped two other charges against Jordi, including distributing explosives information and possession of an unregistered silencer.

Jordi was arrested in Miami Beach on November 11, 2003, after his brother Michael, who lives in Alabama, informed the FBI that Jordi was allegedly planning to bomb a number of targets, including gay bars, churches, and abortion clinics.

Federal prosecutors said that an informant got close to Jordi by pretending to be a former police officer with similar views and that Jordi talked to the informant about blowing up gay bars and abortion clinics. Relatives of Jordi said that he had allegedly become more and more interested in initiating a bombing campaign following the May 2003 arrest of Eric Rudolph.

Eric Rudolph has been charged with committing four terrorist bombings from 1996 to 1998, including the bombing of Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta in 1996, a gay nightclub in 1997, and an Alabama abortion clinic in 1998. Rudolph, who was captured in May 2003 after eluding authorities for nearly five years, fiercely opposed "race-mixing," abortion and homosexuality.

According to authorities, Jordi hoped to use his survival skills to hide in the mountains after committing bombings, much as Rudolph eluded authorities after his alleged 1998 Alabama bombing. Authorities also said that Jordi also discussed his desire to kill President Bush and former President Clinton, but was dissuaded by the informant. Before his arrest, Jordi allegedly ordered books on explosives and staked out targets in South Florida.



That's terrorism right there.

Omnileech

Omnipresent Warlord


Lupin The Great

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:58 pm


agrab0ekim
Lupin The Great
agrab0ekim
Lupin The Great
RavenMcCoy
Lupin, did you even read your own articles?
The first article describes a hate crime committed by a man of Arab descent - we don't even know his religion at this point, and assumption is the mother of all ******** second article describes an unfortunate incident of what appears to be temporary insanity, committed by a man who happens to be Muslim. It is not specified as a hate crime nor an act of terrorism, and posting it as an example of "radical Muslim terrorism" is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who chooses to read it, not to mention insulting to actual acts of terrorism. This "rampage" was not pre-meditated, so it's not an act of terrorism, and he wasn't targeting any one group, sex, religion in particular, so it's not even able to be labeled a hate crime.

Please read your sources more carefully in the future.
This is not the first time a muslim man has used a car to run over civilians in this country, I don't believe that a mental snap was the only reason for that hit and run attack. And terrorism doesn't necessarily have to be some bold plan that takes months to come up with. I could just go to a train station and gun down people who come out of a train with out thinking twice. So crimes like this are considered acts of terrorism. Terror is Terror no matter the mental status.

And I will always look carefully at my articles ma'am.


bush is a terrorist by the definition. He does strike terror into my heart, because i am afraid that the constitution will never recover
Afraid of Bush?? He's a C average student, he maybe a terrorist by the books but come on does he seriously look like he's capable of "striking terror" into anyone.


i am just saying that terrorisim as a definition is easy to apply to any persons
Indeed, but it's simply a label, I mean I could call anyone a terrorist and I myself could be one.
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