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Gargis

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:46 am


He's found guilty in crimes against humanity and has received a death penalty. Apparently he's going to be hanged sometime in 2007. His halfbrother is also sentenced to death by hanging, and Saddam's superior judge too.

The former vice president is sentenced to life in jail, three former members of the Baath-party is sentenced to 15 years in jail, while two others get 22 years in jail.

Mohammed Azawi Ali is free, due to lack of evidence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6117910.stm
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:51 am


i called it i knew they were going to hang the basterd i won $20 from my friend

moneybags the king


agrab0ekim

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:22 pm


timing makes me think it was aimed for right now, help the GOD out a bit

he should not be killed for attempting to keep his country together. If your citizens attempt to overthrow you and the government, you have the right - and the duty - to put them down

would you have okayd the hanging of Sherman or Lincoln
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:46 am


I guess it didn't do much to hell the republicans eh? It's not really major news since we all knew this was coming after we caught the guy.

Omnileech

Omnipresent Warlord


RavenMcCoy
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:34 pm


Omnileech
I guess it didn't do much to hell the republicans eh? It's not really major news since we all knew this was coming after we caught the guy.


RAISE YOUR HANDS IF YOU'RE JUST SHOCKED THAT THE RESULTS OF THE TRIAL CAME OUT JUST DAYS BEFORE ELECTION DAY LOLZ
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:44 pm


I'm not surprised but I would have thought that they could have thought up of something better than that as a kicker to try and get people to vote republican. They were really grasping at straws there.

Omnileech

Omnipresent Warlord


Lupin The Great

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:01 pm


Meh one less dictator in the world....
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:06 pm


Lupin The Great
Meh one less dictator in the world....


Traded for anarchy leasding up to a theocracy. Sound much better to you?

Omnileech

Omnipresent Warlord


Lady_Giselle

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:11 pm


the death penalty in general is just wrong. point blank.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:20 pm


Lady_Giselle
the death penalty in general is just wrong. point blank.

because personal opinions and individual moral codes should override law and order and the opinions and moral codes of others, as well as reasoning’s of others.
the death penatly is not wrong, its an essential way to seek out justice.

dartalian


agrab0ekim

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:32 pm


dartalian
Lady_Giselle
the death penalty in general is just wrong. point blank.

because personal opinions and individual moral codes should override law and order and the opinions and moral codes of others, as well as reasoning’s of others.
the death penatly is not wrong, its an essential way to seek out justice.


explain that please
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:25 pm


Omnileech
Lupin The Great
Meh one less dictator in the world....


Traded for anarchy leasding up to a theocracy. Sound much better to you?
Why not? It's the middle east, you either have Despotic rule, harsh Monarchies, or Islamic Republics. Take your pick. sweatdrop

Lupin The Great


Son of Axeman

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:42 am


Lupin The Great
Omnileech
Lupin The Great
Meh one less dictator in the world....


Traded for anarchy leasding up to a theocracy. Sound much better to you?
Why not? It's the middle east, you either have Despotic rule, harsh Monarchies, or Islamic Republics. Take your pick. sweatdrop


Personally? I'd have preferred that Iraq and Iran blown eachother up in that little neverending war they were fighting, then gone in and deposed whatever already-weakenned dictator was left.

But, y'know, I'm just crazy like that.

The thing that vexed me about Saddam's execution is how it was carried out. Further proof that giving middle-eastern radical Islamists technology is a bad, bad idea.

EDIT: I'm much more comfortable with a plain, old dictator, than one who sincerely think that he's been chosen by a big, invisible man in the sky. I don't know about you all, but to me, this sounds like psychotic behaviour. Much better to have a semi-sane dictator than that.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:24 pm


agrab0ekim
dartalian
Lady_Giselle
the death penalty in general is just wrong. point blank.

because personal opinions and individual moral codes should override law and order and the opinions and moral codes of others, as well as reasoning’s of others.
the death penatly is not wrong, its an essential way to seek out justice.


explain that please

As referring to what?
I assume you mean just the death penalty thing but I will attempt to explain it all.

First she is using the statement that the death penalty is wrong without giving any reasons beyond that. Likely she is using her own moral code to do so. However her moral code should not be present in law.

As for the death penalty being necessary.
1. Law does not deal with morals, but with laws written and set forth ahead of time and with the punishment for those actions likewise spelled out. (sometimes specifically in that law, or the law is placed in a general category such as class A felony, class B felony, Class D misdemeanor, etc with varying penalties for each.)
2. The death penalty is the ultimate punishment and tool that the criminal justice system can have at its disposal to address the most egregious breaches of the peace.
3. The death penalty was reinstated at the onset of the democratically elected government after the US banned its use until the government took over its own sovereignty and reinstated it. It is has since become a symbol that Iraq is its own government making its own laws and decisions, even if they are contrary to what the US had already established.
4. The current legal and ethical system used by the Iraqis use does rely partially on the teachings from the Koran, and as such are required by that system to maintain the use of the death penalty.

dartalian


dartalian

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:27 pm


Son of Axeman
Lupin The Great
Omnileech
Lupin The Great
Meh one less dictator in the world....


Traded for anarchy leasding up to a theocracy. Sound much better to you?
Why not? It's the middle east, you either have Despotic rule, harsh Monarchies, or Islamic Republics. Take your pick. sweatdrop


Personally? I'd have preferred that Iraq and Iran blown eachother up in that little neverending war they were fighting, then gone in and deposed whatever already-weakenned dictator was left.

But, y'know, I'm just crazy like that.

The thing that vexed me about Saddam's execution is how it was carried out. Further proof that giving middle-eastern radical Islamists technology is a bad, bad idea.

EDIT: I'm much more comfortable with a plain, old dictator, than one who sincerely think that he's been chosen by a big, invisible man in the sky. I don't know about you all, but to me, this sounds like psychotic behaviour. Much better to have a semi-sane dictator than that.

That war if fought since the end of the gulf war, and with US and others staying out of it would have ended in the sunnies being wiped out. The Shia in the south would have taken the side of Iran, and wiped out the suni in the North putting the whole region under the rule of Iran. Then the whole region would be ruled by a dictator who thinks allah had him in power, (at least publicly to the people of Iran)
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