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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:19 pm
Why Oceans are not Rising
Ice which sits over oceans does not cause a change in sea level when it melts, because the water is already supporting its weight. The only way sea level can rise is when ice which was over land moves into the oceans.
Ice which is accumulating on land is lowering the sea level, because it is coming out of the oceans and not flowing back in.
The Public Version Vs. the Science Version.
Global warming propagandists have recently been saying that ocean levels are expected to rise 20 feet in the future. This claim is in blatant contradiction to measurements which show that oceans are only rising 0.4mm per year, which is less than 2 inches per century.
There are two positions propagandists take on every issue: One, there is the public impression. In this case, ice melting everywhere is supposed to tell the public that ocean levels are rising. Two, there is the technical rationalization. Here, the technical rationalization is based upon misrepresented science.
Antarctica Study.
Scientific studies show ice accumulating over land on Antarctica and Greenland. Propagandists state the opposite based upon misrepresentation of those studies. The full articles are not available on the internet, but there is enough information to evaluate the claims. The first study was published in Science on May 19 and June 24, 2005. Satellite radar was used to show thickening of ice over eastern Antarctica, with some thinning over western Antarctica, but a net increase, which means slight reducing effect upon ocean levels.
Nature: 19 May 2005
East Antarctica puts on weight. Increased snowfall could slow sea-level rise. Increased snowfall over a large area of Antarctica is thickening the ice sheet and slowing the rise in sea level caused by melting ice...
Greenland Study.
On October 20 and November 11, 2005 Science published a study showing the same thing on Greenland: satellite radar showed ice increasing on the interior of Greenland.
October 21, 2005
Greenland ice cap thickens slightly. Satellite measurements show that snowfall has thickened Greenland's ice cap.
OSLO, Norway (Reuters) -- Greenland's ice cap has thickened slightly in recent years despite wide predictions of a thaw triggered by global warming, a team of scientists said on Thursday...
there is more on this site:http://www.nov55.com/oceans.html
Knola: if you are reading this, scroll down on that page and look, the source has sources from journals.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:23 am
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:05 pm
That is some greaaat news O:
I'm suprized they are thickening, since the global average tempature has risen. But just because the ice has been thickening on land, the Arctic is still melting, causing many species forced to extinction. And without those species, the ecosystem STILL is screwed.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:33 am
Sukihana` That is some greaaat news O:
I'm suprized they are thickening, since the global average tempature has risen. But just because the ice has been thickening on land, the Arctic is still melting, causing many species forced to extinction. And without those species, the ecosystem STILL is screwed. yeah, but new ones may evolve. And everything is still a maybe.
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:14 pm
Sukihana` That is some greaaat news O:
I'm suprized they are thickening, since the global average tempature has risen. But just because the ice has been thickening on land, the Arctic is still melting, causing many species forced to extinction. And without those species, the ecosystem STILL is screwed. See, this is what I mean. Make up your mind! Are we going to die or not???????? God.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:59 am
torniquet Sukihana` That is some greaaat news O:
I'm suprized they are thickening, since the global average tempature has risen. But just because the ice has been thickening on land, the Arctic is still melting, causing many species forced to extinction. And without those species, the ecosystem STILL is screwed. See, this is what I mean. Make up your mind! Are we going to die or not???????? God. yep yep
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:26 am
well, we are all going to die eventually, and the earth will die (explode? i dont know) we just dont know when, if we did, that would be creepy.
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:50 pm
Lulianii well, we are all going to die eventually, and the earth will die (explode? i dont know) we just dont know when, if we did, that would be creepy. yeah I believe I read it is one billion years and the sun will be close enough that the oceans will evaporate
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:26 pm
coooooool
of course i wouldnt be cool if i was alive when that happened............
Edit: It wouldnt be cool, not i wouldnt be cool....hehe, cuz I'll always be cool
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:52 pm
Well, you said that the only way sea levels would rise is if the water on top of land, called permafrost, would melt, and it has. I don't know about it thickening, i haven't heard that yet. But, the change is easily viewable by the human eye. If you walk through greenland, you could see brooks running through it into the ocean. These brooks cause friction against more permafrost, that permafrost melts and the cycle goes on. Also, if you experiment with an ice cube you'll see that the amount of water changes as you freeze it, and then melt it. Since heat is being applied to this ice, the water molecules spread out more, thus making more water. So even if we could freeze all these water molecules being released, it still wouldn't be enough to take back all the water being released into the ocean.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:21 pm
Purplepiratelynn Why Oceans are not Rising Ice which sits over oceans does not cause a change in sea level when it melts, because the water is already supporting its weight. The only way sea level can rise is when ice which was over land moves into the oceans. Ice which is accumulating on land is lowering the sea level, because it is coming out of the oceans and not flowing back in. The Public Version Vs. the Science Version. Global warming propagandists have recently been saying that ocean levels are expected to rise 20 feet in the future. This claim is in blatant contradiction to measurements which show that oceans are only rising 0.4mm per year, which is less than 2 inches per century. There are two positions propagandists take on every issue: One, there is the public impression. In this case, ice melting everywhere is supposed to tell the public that ocean levels are rising. Two, there is the technical rationalization. Here, the technical rationalization is based upon misrepresented science. Antarctica Study. Scientific studies show ice accumulating over land on Antarctica and Greenland. Propagandists state the opposite based upon misrepresentation of those studies. The full articles are not available on the internet, but there is enough information to evaluate the claims. The first study was published in Science on May 19 and June 24, 2005. Satellite radar was used to show thickening of ice over eastern Antarctica, with some thinning over western Antarctica, but a net increase, which means slight reducing effect upon ocean levels. Nature: 19 May 2005
East Antarctica puts on weight. Increased snowfall could slow sea-level rise.Increased snowfall over a large area of Antarctica is thickening the ice sheet and slowing the rise in sea level caused by melting ice... Greenland Study. On October 20 and November 11, 2005 Science published a study showing the same thing on Greenland: satellite radar showed ice increasing on the interior of Greenland. October 21, 2005
Greenland ice cap thickens slightly. Satellite measurements show that snowfall has thickened Greenland's ice cap.OSLO, Norway (Reuters) -- Greenland's ice cap has thickened slightly in recent years despite wide predictions of a thaw triggered by global warming, a team of scientists said on Thursday... there is more on this site:http://www.nov55.com/oceans.html Knola: if you are reading this, scroll down on that page and look, the source has sources from journals. Hmmm.... I am not sure if I agree with you 100% there. When the ice caps melt, sea level will rise almost 40 ft~ Or so say nearly every science team I have ever heard of~ Along with that, the snow could be caused by wamer temps. making water evaporate. Then, as the Water Vapor moves north, it becomes frozen and snows more. So... yeah... I don't really know what I was just trying to prove o_0
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:40 pm
mazuac Purplepiratelynn Why Oceans are not Rising Ice which sits over oceans does not cause a change in sea level when it melts, because the water is already supporting its weight. The only way sea level can rise is when ice which was over land moves into the oceans. Ice which is accumulating on land is lowering the sea level, because it is coming out of the oceans and not flowing back in. The Public Version Vs. the Science Version. Global warming propagandists have recently been saying that ocean levels are expected to rise 20 feet in the future. This claim is in blatant contradiction to measurements which show that oceans are only rising 0.4mm per year, which is less than 2 inches per century. There are two positions propagandists take on every issue: One, there is the public impression. In this case, ice melting everywhere is supposed to tell the public that ocean levels are rising. Two, there is the technical rationalization. Here, the technical rationalization is based upon misrepresented science. Antarctica Study. Scientific studies show ice accumulating over land on Antarctica and Greenland. Propagandists state the opposite based upon misrepresentation of those studies. The full articles are not available on the internet, but there is enough information to evaluate the claims. The first study was published in Science on May 19 and June 24, 2005. Satellite radar was used to show thickening of ice over eastern Antarctica, with some thinning over western Antarctica, but a net increase, which means slight reducing effect upon ocean levels. Nature: 19 May 2005
East Antarctica puts on weight. Increased snowfall could slow sea-level rise.Increased snowfall over a large area of Antarctica is thickening the ice sheet and slowing the rise in sea level caused by melting ice... Greenland Study. On October 20 and November 11, 2005 Science published a study showing the same thing on Greenland: satellite radar showed ice increasing on the interior of Greenland. October 21, 2005
Greenland ice cap thickens slightly. Satellite measurements show that snowfall has thickened Greenland's ice cap.OSLO, Norway (Reuters) -- Greenland's ice cap has thickened slightly in recent years despite wide predictions of a thaw triggered by global warming, a team of scientists said on Thursday... there is more on this site:http://www.nov55.com/oceans.html Knola: if you are reading this, scroll down on that page and look, the source has sources from journals. Hmmm.... I am not sure if I agree with you 100% there. When the ice caps melt, sea level will rise almost 40 ft~ Or so say nearly every science team I have ever heard of~ Along with that, the snow could be caused by wamer temps. making water evaporate. Then, as the Water Vapor moves north, it becomes frozen and snows more. So... yeah... I don't really know what I was just trying to prove o_0 ok...so what science teams have you heard of
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:51 pm
well, another problem with those articles is that they are 3 years old...i don't know about back then, but in those three years we have polluted ALOT more and the temperature chage of one degrees has happened pretty recently, maybe you were right in 2005, but maybe not in 2007-2008....
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:10 pm
Apparently you people have not noticed that the arctic reached its normal winter time extent within a month and kept expanding...Now it has bypassed the extents of 07, 06, 05, and 04....Also there is ice forming in the arctic where there hasn't been ice for 30 or more years...Just ask noaa they have proof of this and so does the accuweather website.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:56 am
torniquet Sukihana` That is some greaaat news O:
I'm suprized they are thickening, since the global average tempature has risen. But just because the ice has been thickening on land, the Arctic is still melting, causing many species forced to extinction. And without those species, the ecosystem STILL is screwed. See, this is what I mean. Make up your mind! Are we going to die or not???????? God. Of course we're going to die. We're trying to choose how. Are we going to die as contributors to global warming, or are we going to die trying to stop it?
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