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emokidsrock94

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:34 am


hi ive been studying the ancient languages (elven, urgal, dwarf) so i think that the language notes should be put online just in case a character uses the ancient languages, like Arya and the Dwarves.
so ill be posting them on here soon.
but there is a lot of notes so pay attention.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:38 am


THE ELVEN LANGUAGE NOTES: 7 RULES:

1) An apostrophe is a pause in the word or-- if it is between 2 r's-- a thrill in the word. (thrill is a roll of the tongue.)
Example: Zar'rock has a thrill
**--Uru'baen and Ristvak'baen-- baen is part of each word. but because it represents such a powerful and complex form of grief, it is set off by the apostrophe.

2) All verbs are set in the present tense. Thus alfr ach thornessa
translates to He does this. Future tenses are indicated by using shall, will, and other words that are appropriate. Past tense is formed by adding suffixes Iand O. (I know this can be a circle of confusion but try to deal)
Present Tenses________Past Tenses_________Future Tenses
Eddyr--am____________Ero--was___________Weohnata--will
Ach--does or do________Achi--did___________(i havent figured out the rest yet)
Eru--are______________Erni--were

3) Unless using formal gramar or if the absence causes confusion, am and both definite and indefinite article adjectives are often excluded from scentences.
Example: Eka fricai un Shur'tugal means I a rider and friend, but is supposed to be I am a rider and a friend.

4) The Ancient Language does not use present participles, (leaving, walking, going, trying, etc.)
Examples: humans would say "walking into the room, Eragon sees Arya."
While Elves say "As walk into the room, Eragon see Arya."

5) Titles, Honorifics, and descriptions usually follow the person or item being described. Translators are free to use their description in arranging the words.

6)This rule is about the ancient marks above letters which i cant explain online so to find out this one you will have to get the book Eragon out and look through the language guide for these notes.


#7 coming soon

emokidsrock94


Rikuslight

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:23 pm


Gah! I don't know a THING about them...I'll have to check this thread a LOT...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:54 pm


lol

emokidsrock94


XxSaphireDragonxX
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:33 pm


This is confusing...... I made up a few of my own sentences using the words provided:

Eka hjarta ono - I love (heart) you.

Eka hjarta skulbaka - I love dragons.

Onr wydra huildar rauthr – Your fate holds misfortune.

Iet lam huildar vanyali – My hand holds magic.

Reisa sem oro fra du adurna – Raise that arrow from the water.

Brakka du adurna – Reduce the water.

Atra onr hjarta tauthr du evarinya – Let your heart follow the stars.

Varda iet skulbaka – Watch over my dragon.

Atra ono waise vardo fra rauthr – May you be warded from misfortune.

Waise hljordr – Be silent.

((P.S. Each day I can post a little bit of the Ancient Language from the books. Red star means the words are from Eldest, and blue for Eragon. Thanks! biggrin ))
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:34 am


thanks for the help
sometimes it seems like the rules go around in circles
which is very confusing

emokidsrock94


emokidsrock94

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:09 am


#7
the ancient language has no letters X or Q

________________Vowels______________
*A- as in cot, or bother// when at the beginning or middle of words
*A- as in nut, or humdrum// when at the end of words
*E- as in bed, bread
*E- as in beet, or fleet// when placed before A or O. the second vowel retains its original sound unless otherwise modified.
*I- as in bit, or glimmer
*I- as in beet, or fleet// when placed before A, E, or O. the second vowel retains its original sound unless otherwise modified.
*O- as in bone, or tone
*U- as in rule, or lute
*Y- as in by, or fly// when in the middle of a word
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:26 am


#7 continued

__________consonants______________
*J- as in young, or yam// when when in the middle of the words it makes the yuh sound.
*J- as in job, or gem// when at the begining of words.
occasionally the J is silent when it conflicts with a neighboring vowel or consonant.
*Y- as in young, or yard// when at the beginning of a word or in the suffix ya

emokidsrock94


emokidsrock94

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:33 am


#7 continued

__________________Diphthongs_____________
+AE, AI- as in date, bay
+AU- as in load, out
+EI- as in beet, fleet
+EY- as in bay, flay
+OI- as in boy, oil
+UI- as in ewe (dont ask what this means i have no clue)
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:22 pm


That is very confusing. How do you find out all this stuff, anyway? Is it from the books? Oh, and tomorrow I will post some of the Ancient Language, starting from A. Thank! :3

P.S. Emo - Dont forget to post in the Varden Rp too! wink

XxSaphireDragonxX
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emokidsrock94

PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:46 am


i have the eragon book with all these notes in the language guide
and when im done withe the ancient language ill be starting on the dwarf language
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:36 am


#7 continued yet again....


_________________Others___________________
*'er, eir- as in ear ('e is an antient language symbol)
*oh- as in know
*or- as in oar
*th- as in thank
*ur- as in birth, purr
*yr- as in ear


_____(i cant do the accent marks on a computer *sorry*)_____

emokidsrock94


emokidsrock94

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:33 pm


Some of the elven words/ phrases are:
(they are alphabetized)

adura--water
Agaeti Blodhren-- Blood-oath Celebration
Aiedail--The Morning Star
Argetlam--Silver Hand
Atra esterni ono thelduin/ Mor'ranr lifa unin hjarta onr/ Un du evarinya ono varda-- May good fortune rule over you/ Peace live in your heart/ And the stars watch over you
Atra gulia un ilian tauthr ono un atra ono waise skolir fra rauthr-- May luck and happiness follow you and may you be a sheild from misfortune
Atra nosa waise vardo fra eld hornya-- Let us be warded from listeners
Bjartskular--Brightscales
blothr--halt;stop
Brakka du vanyali sem huildar Saphira un eka!-- Reduce the magic that holds Saphira and me
brisingr--fire
Dagshelgr-- Hallowed Day
draumr kopa-- dream stare


i will continue later
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:01 am


I love the ancient languages. I love the way is sounds when you say it ^_^

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